Thanks Luke for your response.

My use case is following.
a) I read data from BQ (TableRow)
b) Convert it into (Table.Row) for DLP calls.
c) have to batch Table.Row collection up to a max size of 512 KB (i.e fit may 
rows from BQ into a single DLP table) and call DLP.

Functionally, I don't have a need of key and window. As I just want to fit rows 
in DLP table up to a max size.

In batch mode, when I call StateFulAPI, 
it adds a "BatchStatefulParDoOverrides.GroupByKeyAndSortValuesOnly" step and 
this step is super slow. Like it is running on 50 node cluster for 800 GB data 
for last 10 hours.

This step is not added when I call Dataflow in streaming mode. But I can't call 
it in Streaming mode for other reasons.

So I am trying to understand following
a) Either I give a hint somehow to Dataflow runner not to add this step 
"BatchStatefulParDoOverrides.GroupByKeyAndSortValuesOnly"  at all, then I don't 
have any issues.
b) if it adds this step, then how should I choose my ARTIFICIALLY created keys 
that step can execute as fast as possible. It does a SORT by on timestamps on 
records. As I don't have any functional key requirement, shall I choose same 
keys for all rows vs randomkey for some rows vs random key for each row; what 
timestamps shall I add same for all rows ? to make this function work faster.

Thanks
Aniruddh

On 2020/04/23 16:15:44, Luke Cwik <lc...@google.com> wrote: 
> Stateful & timely operations are always per key and window which is the
> GbkBeforeStatefulParDo is being added. Do you not need your stateful &
> timely operation to be done per key and window, if so can you explain
> further?
> 
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 6:29 AM Aniruddh Sharma <asharma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Kenn
> >
> > Thanks for your guidance, I understand that batch mode waits for previous
> > stage. But the real issue in this particular case is not only this.
> >
> > Dataflow runner adds a step automatically
> > "BatchStatefulParDoOverrides.GbkBeforeStatefulParDo" which not only waits
> > for previous stage but it waits for a very very very long time. Is there a
> > way to give hint to Dataflow runner not to add this step, as in my case I
> > functionally do not require this step.
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestion, will create another thread to understand BQ
> > options
> >
> > Thanks
> > Aniruddh
> >
> > On 2020/04/23 03:51:31, Kenneth Knowles <k...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > The definition of batch mode for Dataflow is this: completely compute the
> > > result of one stage of computation before starting the next stage. There
> > is
> > > no way around this. It does not have to do with using state and timers.
> > >
> > > If you are working with state & timers & triggers, and you are hoping for
> > > output before the pipeline is completely terminated, then you most likely
> > > want streaming mode. Perhaps it is best to investigate the BQ read
> > > performance issue.
> > >
> > > Kenn
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 4:04 PM Aniruddh Sharma <asharma...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi
> > > >
> > > > I am reading a bounded collection from BQ.
> > > >
> > > > I have to use a Stateful & Timely operation.
> > > >
> > > > a) I am invoking job in batch mode. Dataflow runner adds a step
> > > > "BatchStatefulParDoOverrides.GbkBeforeStatefulParDo" which has
> > partitionBy.
> > > > This partitionBy waits for all the data to come and becomes a
> > bottleneck.
> > > > when I read about its documentation it seems its objective it to be
> > added
> > > > when there are no windows.
> > > >
> > > > I tried added windows and triggering them before stateful step, but
> > > > everything comes to this partitionBy step and waits till all data is
> > here.
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to write code in some way (like window etc) or give
> > > > Dataflow a hint not to add this step in.
> > > >
> > > > b) I dont want to call this job in streaming mode, When I call in
> > > > streaming mode, this Dataflow runner does not add this step, but in
> > > > Streaming BQ read becomes a bottleneck.
> > > >
> > > > So either I have to solve how I read BQ faster if I call job in
> > Streaming
> > > > mode or How I bypass this partitionBy from
> > > > "BatchStatefulParDoOverrides.GbkBeforeStatefulParDo" if I invoke job in
> > > > batch mode ?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Aniruddh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 

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