I dont think you concur with me, Steve. I dont see any advantage using annotations in JUnit4 neither.
My point is another: if people use the most current version of the "standard" unit testing framework, the "standard" build tool should support that. (Personally I wont use JU4 as long as I dont see any advantages and even dont migrate existing testcases) Jan >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >Von: Steve Loughran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2006 11:07 >An: Ant Users List >Betreff: Re: AW: Support for JUnit 4? > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Because JUnit4 is just released and it seemed to me that it >wasnt very clear available in the cvs (as Gump has used only >the 'old' 3.8.1), I doubt that there are many thoughts about >integrating JUnit4 into Ant yet. >> >> JUnit4 also needs Java5 due to extensive use of annotations >and generics. Ant´s guideline is to be buildable on JDK1.2. >Therefore JUnit4 could be only an optional add-on - like apt support. >> >> What does Ant with JUnit at this time? Having a JUnitRunner >(<junit>) and building a report from that output >(<junitformat>). From the user point of view nothing changes. >Ant does not use on of the existing JUnit runners (AFAIK) - it >implements its own. >> We could see how to run JUnit4-tests with that and where >enhancements are needed. >> >> If you want to spent time on that you´re welcome ;-) >> > >I concur with Jan here. > >I'm personally not happy with the junit4 dev process, and >neutral about the architecture. My (work) colleagues and I >don't see what annotations bring to the table compared to >methods of well-known names. Really. > >this is actually a recurrent problem with Java5 code -look at >EJB, it's gone overboard in annotating everything rather than >just having a few useful interfaces like "lifecycle". It goes >one step worse with extensions like hibernate, which adds >installation-specific tuning options (like batch fetch size) >to the source. > >So no, I'm not in a rush to do Junit4 specific work. > >Marian, >As it is clearly on your todo list, I would recommend > >-getting on the Ant developer mail list. > >-start by helping us add java5 specific tests that let us see >where the existing junit runner fails. We can selectively run these. > >-see what tweaks we need to do to the testrunner and reporting >XSL sheets. > >Despite Jan's Java1.2+ warning, we can add support for Java5 >in something optional, that is classes that only get built in >java1.5, or via introspecation. This cannot be at the expense >of older systems, however; the old runner must remain. > >-steve > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For >additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
