> -----Original Message-----
> From: Clifton Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2006 1:02 AM
> To: Ant Users List
> Subject: Re: When is the next release?
> 
> So what you all are saying is that without all of the 3rd 
> party jars the best I can get out of the ant source distro is 
> an incomplete build? I checked and that is right, the 
> optional task jars are all empty. I also looked around for a 
> fetch.xml and could not find one. That is somewhat 
> discouraging as I was hoping for something that would just 
> work without having to do extra steps. 

Simply put - Ant does not have a framework for effective management of 3rd.
Party plugins - a.k.a. Ant imposes extra steps.  The missing ingredient is a
standalone 'ant-plugin' that includes the declaration of version
dependencies when loading a extension (i.e. it's not sufficient to depend on
developers with free time available - what you need is a complete dynamic
antlib deployment solution).  There are external antlibs (fully ASL 2.0
compatible) that address and fully resolve this issue, however - a solution
needs to come from the Ant community as a part of a 1.7 release (IMVHO).

Cheers, Steve.



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