Hi Paolo:

I tried configuring the Ethernet interfaces as "promiscuous" and this
did indeed provide a workaround for the issue I raised.  The root cause
of my problems seems to have been a lack of understanding on my part as
to what I was really asking UML to do for me; your explanation has
helped clear things up significantly.  It appears that I was using
interfaces of the form "ethX=mcast" expecting them to behave like ones
of the form "ethX=daemon" used with "uml_switch -hub".  I've now
reconfigured things to use the latter type of interface, and things are
working as I expected.

Thanks so much for your help!

Regards,
Al Stephens
Wind River

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Blaisorblade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2006 4:20 AM
> To: user-mode-linux-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc: Stephens, Allan
> Subject: Re: [uml-user] Promiscuous mode interface bug?
> 
> On Wednesday 26 July 2006 16:34, Stephens, Allan wrote:
> > Hi there:
> >
> > I've been running UML using Linux 2.6.17 (guest) and 2.6.12 
> (host) and 
> > configured a guest with a pair of Ethernet multicast interfaces as 
> > shown below.  (Note that I didn't configure any IP 
> addresses, as I'm 
> > not trying to use them to carry IP traffic.)
> >
> > uml_mconsole <session> config eth1=mcast,00:00:00:00:01:01 
> > uml_mconsole <session> config eth2=mcast,00:00:00:00:02:02
> >
> > When a second guest transmitted traffic using a destination 
> address of 
> > 00:00:00:00:01:01, the message showed up on both interfaces (as 
> > expected).  However, the kernel protocol handled incoming 
> messages did 
> > not recognize and discard the unwanted copy that showed up at "eth2"
> > because the associated "struct net_device" object did not have the 
> > "promiscuity" field set to indicate that the interface 
> might receive 
> > traffic other than its own.
> 
> That's a slightly wrong interpretation of the flag (it 
> actually means that the interface should accept others' 
> packets; whether it may receive them or not is indicated by 
> the BROADCAST/POINTTOPOINT flag in ifconfig output).
> 
> It's also a slightly complex way to check it:
> 
> ifconfig eth2 |grep PROMISC would be simpler.
> and ifconfig eth2 promisc would enable it.
> 
> > It seems to me that any UML interface configured to use multicast 
> > should cause the promiscuity field of the associated 
> net_device to be 
> > set -- but maybe I'm missing something here.  Is the scenario I 
> > encountered really a bug?
> 
> No, it's a feature; I understand your point of view and what 
> you say makes sense from that, but you're looking from an 
> unusual point of view (and you went very fast up the 
> knowledge hill so it's not a problem, you must be a smart guy).
> 
> You're more or less claiming that if you have a hub-based 
> Ethernet LAN (multicast networking has the same properties, 
> it's a broadcast LAN implemented over multicast IP) all PCs 
> should auto-configure their interfaces to work in promiscuos mode.
> 
> That's wrong, as promiscuos mode only makes sense in 
> hub-based networks and reduces overhead.
> 
> You can still configure your interface to work in promiscuos 
> mode as said above.
> 
> All this said, if when trying what I suggested you see 
> unexpected behaviour, it _may_ be a bug (especially in UML 
> network support and/or UML multicast transport).
> --
> Inform me of my mistakes, so I can keep imitating Homer 
> Simpson's "Doh!".
> Paolo Giarrusso, aka Blaisorblade
> http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade
> Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! 
>  http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com 
> 
> 

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