On Wednesday 02 March 2005 21:00, Maarten wrote:
> On Wednesday 02 March 2005 15:41, you wrote:
> > On Tuesday 01 March 2005 13:17, Maarten wrote:
> >
> > In fact I guess that the miss of modules was another, indipendent problem
> > (I boot most of my kernels after forgetting to install modules... I make
> > sure what I really need is compiled in).
>
> Yes, it was an unrelated problem.
>
> > > This is what I see on the host system:
> >
> > This is the usual symptom of a 2.6.9 / .10 host with a UML old enough to
> > not have the fixes. Vanilla 2.6.9 and 2.6.10 haven't them (some doubts
> > about 2.6.10).
>
> Thanks, I solved it yesterday.
> It was the missing SKAS patch.

> I got confused by the SKAS kernel help on 
> the guest which states (in so many words) "it is safe to say yes here" but
> it really isn't, if the host kernel isn't patched for SKAS. Or so it
> seems...
No, I confirm that if the host misses the SKAS patch, and the guest is 
compiled with SKAS support, it will work.

Your problem is different, it is that TT mode has a bug in that situation (btw 
the fault is not ours, because it works on a <=2.6.8.1 host, and I hope it 
will work again on a 2.6.11 host).
> Applying your patch did the trick, and it applied cleanly to a non-vanilla
> (Gentoo) kernel.
>
> The Gentoo UML howto mentions nothing about SKAS mode neither about host
> kernel patching (or little).  When reading the UML docs themselves it
> finally dawned on me I needed that.
>
> Everything works just fine now.
>
> Out of curiosity, is a 'default' SKAS-enabled guest (and without the
> host-fs kernel option) safe enough as a sandbox to let untrusted users in,
> or are additional measures in order to really secure it (or more paranoia
> ;-) ? Ie. how difficult is it to gain access to the host OS from the UML
> guest?

root can modprobe hostfs and access the host filesystem, or insert an even 
better module he wrote.

Chrooting UML is important (remember to "touch /jail/proc/mm && mount 
--bind /proc/mm /jail/proc/mm" to make /proc/mm exist inside the chroot).
-- 
Paolo Giarrusso, aka Blaisorblade
Linux registered user n. 292729
http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade




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