No, but I can guess that it is much as has been posted prior to this. Virtually 
all malware deterrent products use subscription based services, and many of 
them get their malware signature data from the same sources. False positives 
are not unheard of, although I suspect they are fairly rare. 

We had an app that was generating a false positive in the AV module in our 
gateway/routers. Not only could I not copy the installer from the server to the 
local workstation I was trying to install on, but just opening a folder on the 
server from a remote location would cause the WAN connection to reset! I didn't 
connect the dots and couldn't figure out why my folders kept delisting their 
contents from remote sites until some time later! Informing the developer AND 
the subscriptions service eventually resolved the issue. 

If we had a list of all LC apps that were failing, along with a list of the 
libraries they used, we might be able to do a little detective work and figure 
out what library is causing an issue. Otherwise, it may simply be a matter of 
setting a dummy apps libraries to not automatically detect, and add one library 
at a time, rebuilding each time, in order to isolate the errant library. As I 
understand the problem, not all apps are suffering from this? 

Bob S


> On Jan 7, 2019, at 08:47 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Bob Sneidar wrote:
> 
> > We disable Windows Defender via group policy. A lot of IT
> > administrators do. It's not that it's a bad product, it's that
> > there are alternatives in the marketplace that provide a great
> > many more features, like central management and distribution
> > of policies, which can universally whitelist folders on all
> > domain controlled workstations.
> >
> > For the non-domain systems in a small office with a limited budget,
> > Defender is a great solution as an endpoint malware product. However,
> > these are the issues they will encounter, not just with LC apps but
> > with others.
> 
> Do you know what Defender is doing that other more full-featured packages 
> aren't in terms of application performance impairment?
> 
> In my searches I've found many explanations of the impact of the problem, but 
> nothing about its cause, not even whether Microsoft intends to repair 
> Defender to work more efficiently.
> 
> I'm hoping we can pin down the difference between apps affected by Defender 
> and those that run unimpaired, so we might consider whatever changes may be 
> needed to LC to put it into the latter category.
> 
> -- 
> Richard Gaskin


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