Thanks Alex, For my first web services I implementing the "start using" of library stacks method back in the day. Like you I moved to "start using" of script only library stacks. I'll just keep chugging along with "start using"s. I'll keep include/require on the back shelf for now...
Thanks again! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -----Original Message----- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Alex Tweedly via use-livecode Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 3:16 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Alex Tweedly Subject: Re: LiveCode Server Hmmm I hesitated to reply earlier, just in case there are subtleties I might get wrong and mislead you - but here goes. include / require are essentially ways to include the text of the included file. Include will do that - and do it every time you use it .... so you could have a trivial nonsensical example like ... mydebug.lc - a file which will dump out a bunch of variable info ... > <? rev > put "Data is:" && gVar1 && gVar2 && gArray[temp] > and use it as ..... doSomeHandler gVar1, 17 -- and check what the current status is now include "mydebug.lc" doSomeOtherFunctions -- and check again include "mydebug.lc" note that you can now change the file to do any other logging you might want, and each occurrence will be changed. NB - I have never used 'include' except in a few places where I should have used require :-) And I've never wanted to use it as I just described :-) :-) require is similar, but the file contents will only be inserted the *first* time; so it's useful to include the source of library-like functions. And you don't need to worry if you do this in multiple places. I used to use this a lot. Note that include and require are both specific to LC server. I basically no longer use them, now that we have script-only stacks. I now develop 99% of all LC server functionality as script-only stacks, testing in either the IDE or via LCServer as needed. And for this, you use "start using" just like in the IDE world. -- Alex. P.S. Note - there are (I think) strange subtleties in using globals and/or script locals in include'd / require'd files - very confusing, and I suspect it's a bug - but couldn't quite come up with a reliable mental model or example; that was when I just converted to script-only library stacks. On 30/11/2018 16:26, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > Ahh... I see that the revIgniter library is the way to go for my > number 2 question and I am immersed in the docs. But I'm still > wondering about my question # 1 (differences between "Include", > "Require" and "Start using") > > I've been using LiveCode Server for a few years now with great success > as various web services from LCS. I started this when I was a relative newbie. > I access my library stacks via "Start using". > 1) Can anyone shed some light on the subtle differences between > "Include", "Require" and "Start using"? The docs are not clear to me. > > I'm starting a new project using interactive web pages. I have an in > house web designer that I need to show how to call LC server scripts > to populate web pages. I would rather use LC Server and MySQL and my > on-staff html designer rather than sub it all out using vb.net and SQL server. > 2) Are there any examples of how to do this? > > Thanks in advance. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode