Peter:
I had self-hosted a few small videos, all in mp4 format. I hadn’t checked many 
video players, tho, but when I changed hosting services, for my wordpress site, 
the video appeared offset to the right (same code as prev hosting), in the 
iframe. I couldn’t get it to view correctly, and gave up. However, the Youtube 
and Vimeo versions played fine. Then, googling around led me to a bunch of 
probably obsolete examples of what needs to be done to play videos on a wide 
variety of browsers. So, in my search for a solution that would work for both 
livecode apps and my wordpress site, I tried Youtube and Vimeo. Vimeo has a low 
cost plan of $7/mo, which would fit my needs.

So, I’ll probably go with Vimeo. But, it’s good to know that mp4 will play in 
all browsers.

Best,
Bill


> On Aug 23, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Bill: If your video is a common format like MPEG-4, then any browser will 
> play it.
> 
> Stephan: I’m aware of the streaming server versions issue. However, not all 
> video content needs to be optimized—it depends on what it is and in what 
> context it is displayed. But, it is true that Vimeo and YouTube handle format 
> conversion and optimization, which is very nice, and one can embed a browser 
> widget on a LC card to play it. Part of my point was that to create 
> interactivity with the media, it would have to be in a format that a player 
> control can use, which would necessitate appropriate files in media storage 
> somewhere.
> 
> I should have noted in my earlier post that to use callbacks in an LC player 
> in Windows, the media format needs to be WMV.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 23, 2018, at 2:05 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> um... Peter.. streaming video is not just about having the storage space...
>> It's what the servers do to match up the devices calling with the
>> appropriate size and type file. Typically many versions of the same video
>> are created for each upload. The Vimeo and YouTube web apps handle all of
>> that.
>> 
>> Believe me I resisted for years and insisted on hosting my own video
>> content, but when the quality got to be HD for everyone, they dumped Flash®
>> and I figured out how one could turn off the ads, I was sold.
>> 
>> --
>> Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
>> mixstream.org
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Bill,
>>> 
>>> You could also look at Amazon AWS S3 storage.
>>> 
>>> It’s pretty much free for the first year. Then, depending on usage, could
>>> be only a few dollars a month.
>>> 
>>> https://aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing/
>>> 
>>> Videos could then be played directly in a Livecode player control, as well
>>> as on your website. One of the benefits of the LC player is that you can
>>> program events to happen in response to particular timings set in the
>>> video—callbacks. This is great for pedagogy—synchronized subtitles,
>>> comments, animations as a video (or audio) plays.
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 23, 2018, at 12:47 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode <
>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> YouTube is great these days. If you take the time to become a verified
>>>> subscriber all the world will be revealed to you. They have many tools
>>> and
>>>> they re-written the whole thing, and it’s pretty good. It’s also free.
>>> You
>>>> can make playlists and decide what happens at the end, and add links and
>>>> other text.
>>>> 
>>>> After you earn your stars and are good for a while they will give you
>>> these
>>>> privileges.
>>>> 
>>>> And as far as video streaming, they actually appear to be the best. They
>>>> are so equipped with their mirror servers all over the world.
>>>> 
>>>> I used to shun YouTube for several years because of their lower quality
>>> at
>>>> the time but now they’ve come up to do not only great serving but live
>>>> streaming as well.
>>>> 
>>>> You can create extra users. And it has a better social features.
>>>> 
>>>> Vimeo streaming is still excellent but I like the extended distribution
>>>> that YouTube has.  And I have to pay over $100 a year to be able to
>>> upload
>>>> the quality I want quickly.
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 12:20 Tom Glod via use-livecode <
>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> just fyi......you can disable to recommened videos in the embedd
>>> code......
>>>>> you can also detect via java script when the video ends. so you really
>>> have
>>>>> more control than you think.  just got to send script to the browser
>>> .....
>>>>> "do in widget".
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven't done anything crazy ...but i know that there is more control
>>> than
>>>>> what is obvious at first.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 3:12 PM William Prothero via use-livecode <
>>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Folks:
>>>>>> I have numerous videos that I would like to play on a wordpress web
>>> site,
>>>>>> and in livecode. I don’t want to host these on my own server for
>>> obvious
>>>>>> reasons of bandwidth, support for different browsers, etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is not a commercial project, but an educational software project
>>>>>> where I give it away for free. So, I would rather not pay, but I have
>>>>>> looked into Vimeo and the lowest rate of $7/mo could work. I’ve tried
>>>>>> YouTube and it has so many privacy issues. Also,  when the video ends
>>> it
>>>>>> displays unrelated material that would be distracting to students.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I understand that any free service will probably want to grab users’
>>> info
>>>>>> for marketing. That’s the world we are in.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Buuut...... do you have a strategy that you could recommend?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> William A. Prothero
>>>>>> http://earthlearningsolutions.org
>>>>>> 
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