The more you understand a task, the more versatile and appropriate any given tool becomes.
I think the biggest struggle for me is finding examples which are "close" to my own goal. I have no problem reverse engineering code... I've done it for a very long time. But unless the outcome closely approximates my need, such an exercise can be frustrating. In addition LC (which I very much like) has its own quirks regarding datagrids which are VERY confusing to the datagrid newbie... see my most recent issue with scrolling, for example. To provide a more effective and cumulative wishlist of suggestions, expectations and content, I really need to go back and (re-)employ your tool with my (now) somewhat fuller understanding of how to define and manipulate datagrids. I will do so in the near future and get back to you. I suspect that one just has to have a certain amount of base-level understanding of the datagrid components and behaviours in order to use datagrids. It's the old boot-strap problem. > Subject: Re: Getting Started with DataGrid and another datagrid form > question > > Dear Douglas, > > Thanks for your interesting feedback about your attempt to use DGH for the > first time, with creating a datagrid form. > > All the properties for customizing the datagrid apart, I've created the > form template area (the way to custom the content of a row with controls > such as image, buttons, etc) with the following objectives: > - in the standard way to customize a datagrid template, we have to open the > row template group inside the template card. In DGH all this group is > copied inside a "visual" area we can manipulate > - when dropping some controls in the template area, with the datagrid, you > are alone with the required script for managing all these controls. DGH, at > the condition to respond to the right dialog, is building a minimal script > depending of the kind of controls you added. Unfortunately this is > difficult to cover all the needs, because they are all specific depending > of the developer and what he want to do. But at least the goal of the > installed script is to give you the keys and philosophy to understand what > it is required for the controls.For a button, how to perform an action, for > a checkbox, how to check or uncheck it, for an image how to display it, to > click it, etc > - one of the recurrent difficulties for users was to understand the > datagrid rows remains empty until you have populate it. And because it is > empty you will never see the beautiful button or image you have added if > you have not at least a row data. This is why in DGH, upper the template > area, we have a datagrid preview, to see immediately the control we have > added. > > Your comment make me realize that it is not enough when you are beginning > with form template. One of my unexploited idea was to add kind of presets > template with for example a text on the left and four checkboxes on the > right, etc so the developper could start with ready to use templates to add > to his datagrid. The problem of the approach is covering needs, I can't > anticipate. > > What might have you expected from DGH in this task? More tutorial > explaining how the template area is working?, more lessons?, contextual > help in DGH to help you to start? Something else? Feel free to expand, I'm > always interested in approachs or ways I could try to implement in the goal > to improve DGH. > > Douglas Ruisaard Trilogy Software (250) 573-3935 _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
