Here are some rude words and phrases that come pretty high on my sh*t list with reasons why:

1. EOL. I use Bryce 7 for producing 3D models even thought it was "EOL" 10 years ago (and ( was able to buy it for $10). I use LiveCode 7.1.4 on a regular basis as its interface is a lot less cluttered than the subsequent versions of LiveCode;
               and I like coloured icons.

2. Obsolete.

2.1. Currently composing electronic music on a BBC Model B from 1981 and saving the programs onto a cassette recorder. 2.2. Running Hypercard and other PPC-only software on a G5 polycarbonate iMac. 2.3. Always check my Maths on a British Thornton Sliderule that Mum and Dad gave me for my 13th birthday in 1975. 2.4. Have an iSight WebCam connected via the Firewire port on my 2006 Intel polycarbonate imac as it is a lot more flexible than the rather silly built-in camera on the front of the iMac. 2.5. Use Belkin Nostromo 50 and 52 gamepads as controller devices when programming with LiveCode. 2.6. My EFL school uses a whole host of "obsolete" PCs to deliver content reinforcement software I have written with LiveCode via various versions of Xubuntu: the youngest machine is about 12 years old. 2.7. Use a pair of polycarbonate iMacs (2006) in my school to allow children to have fun remotely programming various floor robots
         via Bluetooth.
2.8. Use a polycarbonate iMac (2006) (as does my wife) with a second monitor as my "main man" for almost everything.

2.9. I use a hand-drill my great-aunt gave my grandfather as a present when he came back to Glasgow after the first World War for all those needs for which a power drill is just a pain-in-the-bum and too much bother.

2.10. I brush my hair every morning with a pair of hairbrushes my great-grandfather gave my grandfather on his 14th birthday (1911).

2.11. My raincoat was something my Uncle picked up when he worked for Aquascutum in 1972.

2.12. I cut my bread with a knife made from part of the front wheel cover of a 1932 Fordson tractor made for
          me as a present by a farmer in Orkney in 1983.

3. Upgrade.

I am sure that about 90% of this is commercial push.

4. Update.

quod erat demonstrandum

4.1. Some pillock tried to tell me that Latin was obsolete the other day . . .

As far as I can see the ONLY reason to get hold of something new is if that new thing will allow you to a vast number of things
that the thing it is set to replace is unable to do.

Richmond.

On 11/7/2018 5:36 pm, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode wrote:
Obsolete is a strong word. There are different levels. I had a friend who 
firmly held that Obsolete meant when something newer could replace a device. 
But it can be argued, and I take this position, that a computer device is 
obsolete when it no longer is capable of running current software. But a third 
level of Obsolecense can be concieved as when a device can no longer perform 
it's function for which it was obtained.

Bob S


On Jul 10, 2018, at 21:18 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Beyond that, given Apple's OS strategy which render usable hardware obsolete 
prematurely, if you want an OS that's safely maintained apparently their 
guidance is to stop using macOS and upgrade to Linux.

--
Richard Gaskin
Fourth World Systems
Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web

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