Douglas ,

Serial over Bluetooth on all Windows with LC - Yes , but as you say it is seen 
as a Com port.

I have a Bluetooth device that needs serial commands - Windows sees this as a 
Bluetooth device (in the loaded driver VCP should be ticked) I then pair it and 
use LC with the standard com port commands.

I second all your other points and we can only hope that LC gets this for 
Android.


Regards Camm

> On 5 Jul 2018, at 15:36, Douglas Ruisaard via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Cam .. you mention that you have Windows working with LC "over USB and 
> *Bluetooth*" ...???  Really?  Can you describe more details about using 
> Bluetooth / Windows / LC?  As far as I know, the ONLY implementation for 
> Bluetooth from LC is Monte Goulding's "mergBLE" which exclusively runs on 
> iOS.  If, on the other hand, you are actually talking about using serial / 
> USB (likely via a USB-to-serial module/adaptor like an FT232) on Windows or 
> Mac, then LC sees these devices as simple "COM" ports and works perfectly 
> well.  But Bluetooth... NO.  So, I'm VERY interested if you have a Bluetooth 
> - LC working combination on Windows!
> 
> Serial/USB functionality on iOS is so complicated, it's a joke!  After 
> submitting some sort of detailed "review" of your needs to Apple, they might 
> "sell" you a customized chip which you must integrate into your receiving 
> device.... if your implementation meets their stringent criteria.  No ... I'm 
> NOT kidding!  And then you're still on your own to find a way to integrate 
> the necessary Xcode into LC... good luck with THAT!!
> 
> But, hey, I'm not bitter!
> 
> LC development *might* consider developing a Bluetooth library for Android if 
> someone (like the LC community, for example) pays them to do so.  I have no 
> problem with that.... other than the price tag for a one-man-show.  According 
> to Iain Morrison from LC:
> 
> "... I am truly sorry to inform you that we will not be able to help on this 
> occasion for this work. Our team are completely tied up at the moment on 
> multiple projects and for the foreseeable future I don't think they will be 
> working on any projects of value less than $1,000 per day. Perhaps you could 
> get in touch with a few of the LC developers that you mentioned to see if 
> they would be interested in crowd funding the work, if you can let me know 
> and I will get one of the devs to have a look at a specification and price. 
> As it stands I would probably put a guide price on it of $5k...."
> 
> I don't have the wherewithal to implement a KickStarter (or some other 
> crowd-funding methodology) campaign... but I'd *sure* would be interested and 
> contribute to one for this purpose.  I see the lack of Bluetooth support as 
> being a huge gap in LC's functionality.
> 
> I have offered (and do so again) for anyone from THIS community with 
> expertise in Android and LC external code integration to consider a project 
> involving either USB/Serial and/or BlueTooth implementation on Android.  I 
> have a full Java library from Adafruit for Android for a specific BLE module 
> which needs integration into LC.  I am, sorry-to-say, completely Java 
> ignorant so I can't even get to first base with this, myself.
> 
> I'd invite the rest of this community to consider the possibility of funding 
> the development of a Bluetooth library for Android and voice their opinions 
> on the matter.  I'd also like to hear if anyone would be willing to initiate 
> a crowd-funding campaign for such a venture and what the level of interest is 
> for this functionality. At approx $5,000 it would only take 50 of us 
> contributing $100 to reach such a goal.  Sounds reasonable.
> 
> Douglas Ruisaard
> Trilogy Software
> (250) 573-3935
> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> There is not currently a library available that does what you want.  With
>> LCB, you could package your own.  There are a couple of packages with code
>> that interfaces with USB deices, but I don't know enough about Android to
>> build them in a way that works with LCB.
>> 
>> Here are a couple:
>> https://github.com/felHR85/UsbSerial
>> https://github.com/mik3y/usb-serial-for-android
>> 
>> Here is an example of using the first one:
>> https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/projects/communicate-with-your-arduino-through-android/
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 7:25 AM, General 2018 via use-livecode <
>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi ,
>>> 
>>> I have seen questions raised over platform support for Serial Com ports
>>> and cannot seem to find a conclusive answer for Android  and IOS.
>>> 
>>> On Windows I use serial data over USB and Bluetooth , this all works fine
>>> with LC.
>>> 
>>> I want to migrate to Android - so with LC is serial over USB and Bluetooth
>>> possible ?
>>> Many Android apps currently us this but need LC too.
>>> 
>>> The only option for IOS is WIFI connection.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Camm
> 
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