Can't argue with you there. But many routers are capable of offloading their 
logs to a log server, and any Government Contractor or agency is likely to be 
doing so, as well as running IDS, so there's that. 

I'm not saying our hackles shouldn't be raised, I'm simply proposing that if 
conclusive proof existed which undeniably indicted Kaspersky of this kind of 
activity, it would result in the demise of Kaspersky as a company, and Russia 
would lose a key source of Signals Intelligence. 

What I would be more concerned about is not that there is current or past 
activity, but that there is a "button" that could be pushed to enable the 
clients to begin transmitting critical intelligence during a conflict, or even 
worse, to disable devices running their product. The software would have to be 
decompiled and the code examined to make that determination. I can't believe no 
one has thought to do so, and perhaps the warnings we are getting are the 
fruits of that kind of investigation. 

Bob S


> On Jan 2, 2018, at 11:33 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> For myself, when the intelligence agencies of at least three different 
> nations are telling me to be wary of Kaspersky, and dozens of news articles 
> from papers of record around the world provide details of relationships 
> between Kaspersky staff and FSB agents, at a minimum I'm inclined to consider 
> other brands for my AV needs.
> 
> --
> Richard Gaskin
> Fourth World Systems


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