Hi Alex, I'm working on this too in the coming weeks. I'd be happy to work on it with you if it were on GitHub. I'm working on the following aspects:
1. Static site generation and integration with relevant tool chains 2. Integration with revIgniter 3. Docker based hosting infrastructure On 1 December 2017 at 01:56, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi folks, > > I'm looking for (initial) interest, previous experience, comments, etc. > > Every few [ = 4 to 8] months for the last few [= 2 to 3] years, I've been > either building a new website for someone, or making significant > changes/enhancements to an existing one. Almost every time, unless the > changes are very small, I've decided that I really *should* convert it to > use a 'proper' CMS - e.g. Wordpress. > > And I've tried - but every time I've foundered on not being able to get > the site to be what I want, or realizing (believing?) that to do what I > want requires real development skills within WP - and therefore too much of > a learning curve and/or too much PHP. Or, I've decided that to make it a > bearable experience I need to use multiple add-ons (plugins, themes, etc.) > and then found that the plugins I spent hours investigating and choosing > were incompatible. Or were just not well enough documented. > > [ I won't tell you how often I've found a (video) tutorial, wasted an > entire hour or more watching it - then realized that it was for an > out-of-date version of the plugin, or an old version of Wordpress, and that > all the helpful screenshots showed me how to modify settings / actions that > didn't exist, or had no obvious equivalent, in the current versions. ] > > Twice, having run into brick walls with Wordpress, I've tried other CMSs > (Concrete5 and ??Dolphin??) with similar results - poor / out-of-date docs > have left me stranded - 80% of the way towards doing what I wanted and > unable to get any further. > > So in every case until now, I've given up, made tweaks / extensions to my > own "home-grown" web site tool(s), and - so far - completed my enhancements > in less time than I had wasted trying the "real" CMS. > > I put that down to: > - the power of Livecode > - the power of revIgniter (thank you ! again, Ralf) > - my impatience in trying to learn new tools > > But now I have a new, bigger opportunity / challenge - I've been asked to > build a web site (actually two unrelated web sites) which are bigger and > more complex, and for which I absolutely do not want to become the de facto > on-going (content) maintainer. > > So, I've decided to build LCMS - a Livecode Content Management System. > > It will be (very loosely) based on what I think are the useful ideas in > Wordpress (but without any tendency towards blogs). It will be relatively > simple. > > It won't be: > - smooth, slick and all-powerful like WP > - able to support (initially, and for some time) real independent > development of themes, plugins, auto-loading and updating, etc. etc. (yada, > yada, yada ...) - that might be done in a few [= 2 to 20 years] > > It will be : > - based on Livecode (and extensible in LC) > - (I hope) simple and easy (for a LC developer) to understand, use and > extend > - complete with at least one complete theme (based on Botstrap) > - (at some point) open source, on github, etc. under MIT liceense > - documented in some old-fashioned way (i.e. written, searchable, > skimmable tutorials - few or no Youtube videos to waste your time) > > OK - enough of the advertising pitch :-) > > Here are the requests for input .... > > 1. has anyone tried this before ? and did you succeed ? or why did you > stop ? any foreseeable problems to contend with ? > > 2. am I just tilting at windmills and I should just go back to studying WP > and its plugins ? > > 3. the current prototype is based on (or rather 'is written over' > revIgniter). > > I have very conflicting opinions of revIgniter > + it's wonderful, it has a huge quantity of things it "just does" (in > a well documented, well tested, etc. way) so that I don't need to think or > learn about them, etc. - I love it. > - (a) it is intimately tied to LC server, with heavy dependency on > 'include' so it's impossible to (as I would want to do) test 99% of my code > in the IDE, with debugging etc. help. > - (b) I *really* dislike the "rigLoadView" scheme - it forces (or > seems to force) far too much co-mingling of code and content within the > view files, and has no clear way to use "themes" > > The current version of LCMS simply ignores the 'View' (and 'Model') part > of revIgniter, and generates all its output based on ''pages' and > 'themes' (and 'menus') - but it sill benefits from all the other parts of > revIgniter). > > do you think it would be worth the (considerable) effort needed to remove > the dependency on rvIgniter in the hope of benefiting from the reduced > complexity, hopefully lower overhead, easier debugging a higher percentage > within the Ide, etc. ? > > Thanks for any suggestions, input, etc. > > Alex. > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
