app push is pretty easy/straightforward in LC, but there are multiple QR's out to add features/fix things on them.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 11:01 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Thanks, Stephen: > What we are using as a preliminary solution is a mass sms and/or MMS texts > and identical voice calls to our 49 numbers, initiated by one of several > possible initiators who are called if a fire is observed. We are using > eztexting.com <http://eztexting.com/> for the texts and voiceshot.com < > http://voiceshot.com/> for the voice messaging. It’s very inexpensive for > voice $9/mo and 12c for each call. The texts are low cost too. We can enter > several preset messages that we can choose from, depending on the immediacy > of action that’s required. So, I figure that there are two tries per event > and we should get most of the folks. I think another alert channel would be > push notifications, but for now we’re sticking with voice and text. We > expect the alerts to be very rare (we hope). I think a custom app that > could initiate these actions more automatically would be quite nice, but > the IT for it would take more of an investment than I’m willing to make, > and there is no money in it unless it would take off in the app store, and > if I made it general enough for most neighborhoods. > > For a bare bones, primitive system, text messages could be sent out and > initiating a voice call to the group voice provider could be built in. It > has to be easy and fast for the alert initiator, who would most likely be > packing up for evacuation at the same time. Push notifications would be > nice too. One problem is that the initiator’s phone number always appears > in the voice call and text notification. If a more descriptive sender, like > “ALERT-XX”, it would be better, but that would most likely require setting > up a dedicated alert server, and I don’t want to tackle that at this time. > > Best, > Bill P. > > > On Aug 14, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Stephen Barncard via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > If I were to create an emergency alert app, I'd make something that > stayed > > alive and was always verifying the existence of a central entity - web > > site, server etc. and the fail safe is that the user would be alerted > when > > out of range. An 'always on' executable that would have to be carefully > > crafted to not take up too much battery energy, yet ping headquarters > for a > > change every few seconds, then go into alert mode when the latest check > > reveals the emergency. > > > > It would be part of the routine of the wearer (fireman, whatever) to > 'check > > in' with the server and verify correct operation, then just keep it > running > > all day. The data would be minimal and UDP packets have incredibly low > > latency - even a voice alert could be sent real time - VOIP. > > > > I have no idea how the power usage would be handled in that case - the > > continuous pinging could drain the battery too quickly depending on how > > it's done. But there is the challenge! > > > > -- > > Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - > > mixstream.org > > > > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:25 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> Thanks. Looks interesting. It also looks like I'd have to learn a lot to > >> get it implemented. I’ve been using cURL to access an API for water > meter > >> readings, and it’s painful, but would probably get easier. > >> > >> This looks like a good provider, tho. > >> Best, > >> Bill P > >> > >>> On Aug 14, 2017, at 1:42 PM, Simon Smith via use-livecode < > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I would look at push notifications. onesignal.com looks quiet good, > just > >>> not had a chance to play with it yet. > >>> > >>> I have found that SMS messages are too unreliable when it comes to > >>> emergency notifications, sometimes they come through, sometimes they > >> don't > >>> and sometimes they come through an hour or so later. > >>> > >>> Simon > >>> > >>> > >>> Carpe diem > >>> > >>> *Simon Smith* > >>> m. +27 83 306 7862 > >>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 9:19 PM, ELS prothero via use-livecode < > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I’m curious. Has anybody done much with push notifications on mobile? > >>>> There is a lesson on the livecode web site which is quite detailed, > but > >>>> leaves out the server side of the equation. I have been thinking about > >> an > >>>> emergency alert app and am exploring how difficult it would be to > >> implement > >>>> various communication technologies. Texts seem pretty straighforward, > >> but I > >>>> was thinking that push notifications might get more attention. > >>>> > >>>> The goal is to get the information to the recipient’s brain. It can > get > >> to > >>>> the device, but unless the last (weak link) is traversed, the alert is > >>>> ineffective. The target time for this is 15 minutes. > >>>> > >>>> I’ve Googled the heck out of these topics and there are really nice > >>>> expensive services that can do the job, but we don’t want to pay the > >> high > >>>> fees. Others are marketing oriented, not optimized for emergency > >> services. > >>>> A custom app could be ideal, especially with increasing wildfire > >> activity > >>>> worldwide. > >>>> > >>>> Ideas and info? > >>>> Best, > >>>> Bill > >>>> > >>>> William Prothero, PhD > >>>> Professor Emeritus > >>>> University of California, Santa Barbara > >>>> http://earthlearningsolutions.org > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> use-livecode mailing list > >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >>>> subscription preferences: > >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> use-livecode mailing list > >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. 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