Sorry, this part should be: "So I would guess that tsNet 1.2.8 has caused this bug for you in 8.1.4, which was fixed in tsNet 1.2.9 (included in LC 8.1.5)."
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 1:14 PM, panagiotis merakos < panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote: > Hi Tiemo, > > The "load url" call does use tsNet if you are on Indy or Business. In fact > every network-related operation does use tsNet on Indy and Business. > Moreover, the tsNet external was updated in LiveCode 8.1.4 rc2 (to fix bug > http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19026), so it quite possible > that this update has caused the regression you experienced in 8.1.4 stable. > > For reference, those are the tsNet versions that are included in the LC > recent versions: > > LC 8.1.4 rc-1 : tsNet 1.2.7 > LC 8.1.4-rc-2 until 8.1.4 stable: tsNet 1.2.8 > LC 8.1.5 stable: tsNet 1.2.9 > LC 8.1.6 rc-1 until 8.1.6 stable (to be released very soon): tsNet 1.2.10 > > When a LC release includes a new tsNet version, this is mentioned in the > release email. > > So I would guess that tsNet 1.2.9 has caused this bug for you in 8.1.4, > which was fixed in tsNet 1.2.10 (included in LC 8.1.5). > > Best regards, > Panos > -- > > > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> Hi Mark, >> thank you for your explanations. What I can understand are the >> regressions switching from 6 to 7/8, because of widely new underlying >> architecture and components. That was a huge step. There I had a lot of >> sympathy. What is much more harder to understand and acceptable are the >> regressions within version 8. I would think that there is not such a >> general exchange of components under the hood from 8.1.4rc1 to 8.1.4, which >> would make a total test of every detail necessary. My first idea was a bug >> in tsNet.dll, but this "load URL" bug is not caused by the different >> versions of tsnet, but definitively by LC 8.1.4. >> Tiemo >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im >> Auftrag von Mark Waddingham via use-livecode >> Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2017 13:41 >> An: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >> Cc: Mark Waddingham <m...@livecode.com> >> Betreff: Re: AW: load URL is broken in 8.1.4 >> >> I don't think there is anyway we can deny that the transition from 6.x to >> 7.x caused a lot of regressions. >> >> This is why we have a strict policy of handling maintenance releases now >> - i.e. we work very hard to ensure each maintenance version is strictly >> better than before. >> >> I know of a number of users who have had similar difficulties moving from >> 6 straight to 8 - however, barring the occasional error (e.g. The backdrop >> fiasco and the load URL one you mention directly) 8.1.(x+1) has had less >> regressions relative to 6 - and no regressions relative to 8.1.x. >> >> Also (as far as we can) regressions relative to older versions get very >> high priority in our bug fixing queue. >> >> So things might not yet be perfect but I'd hope that everyone can see >> that we've made great strides (indeed, we've made good progress on fixing >> issues which have been around a lot longer recently - even back to the very >> early days of the MetaCard engine). >> >> No-one likes encountering regressions - however in a system as complex >> and broad as ours they are often unavoidable. >> >> Every one sees a different view of the elephant so to speak - and we try >> to act as quickly as we can when issues are reported (usually seeeing them >> fixed in the next maintenance release). >> >> Warmest Regards, >> >> Mark. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On 31 Jul 2017, at 12:27, Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> > >> > I forgot my final question: Have you made similar experiences or is it >> > only me and how do you handle this permanent hazard of regression bugs? >> > Tiemo >> > >> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im >> > Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB via use-livecode >> > Gesendet: Montag, 31. Juli 2017 11:16 >> > An: LiveCode User Liste senden <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> >> > Cc: Tiemo Hollmann TB <toolb...@kestner.de> >> > Betreff: load URL is broken in 8.1.4 >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > For my automatic update mechanism I am downloading a zip file from a >> > web server, extracting the zip file and starting the downloaded update. >> > >> > I am doing this since years, without having changed anything in my >> > code. Now in 8.1.4, Windows 10 this load URL downloads a >> > "broken/corrupted" empty zip file, which breaks my whole update >> > process. In 8.1.4 rc1 this still has worked and in 8.1.5 it seems to >> > work again without any changes in my code or the zip file. I didn't >> tested yet 8.1.6 and 9. >> > >> > I had done a minor change in my program, completely far off the >> > download handler and just build a new standalone for a new CD >> > production and thought I'll take the "stable" release 8.1.4 instead of >> > the last build with 8.1.4 >> > rc1 for the new production. Because it was only a minor bug fix in my >> > program and I only switched from 8.1.4 to 8.1.4 rc1 I didn't tested >> > each and every possible feature of my program, before going into the >> > production of a new release. Only by a great chance I discovered that >> > my update process is broken. If I would have sold this new CD >> > production, I would never have been able to update my program again, >> > because the update process would have been broken. >> > >> > In all the years working with RunRev/LiveCode I never have experienced >> > so many, frequently regression bugs as in LC 8. I had at least 10-20 >> > regression bugs in LC 8, since switching from 6.7. Almost in each >> > single release candidate and each general release there are new >> > regression bugs of old and common features so that it is a game of >> > hazard to use a new release. I have no idea, what is going on behind >> > the scenes in Edinborough, if it is related to the open source >> > development, so that everybody can create regression bugs, but this >> > isn't anymore a reliable software development. The complete >> responsibility is passed to us. >> > >> > Sorry, but I am really pissed off and my trust in every new release >> > has dropped to zero. >> > >> > Tiemo >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > use-livecode mailing list >> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> > subscription >> > preferences: >> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > use-livecode mailing list >> > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > > > > -- > Panagiotis Merakos <panos.mera...@livecode.com> > LiveCode Software Developer > > Everyone Can Create Apps <https://livecode.com> > -- Panagiotis Merakos <panos.mera...@livecode.com> LiveCode Software Developer Everyone Can Create Apps <https://livecode.com> _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
