Curry Kenworthy wrote:

> Richard:
>  > But when we consider the full cognitive requirements for
>  > using numberFormat, esp. its dependency on multi-statement
>  > context, I think it would be difficult to come up with a
>  > cognitive-load metric which could demonstrate that it's
>  > actually easier to learn than the subset of options needed
>  > to get the same result with the format function.
>
>  > Just because we learned it years ago doesn't mean it's
>  > necessarily easier to learn for anyone else starting out today.
>
> I don't believe for a moment that numberFormat style would lose in a
> straight competition to format style for people with zero related
> experience to either.

I must admit I have neither the methodological background nor the resources to conduct such a study myself, hence my reliance here on mere heuristics.

The link I included in my other post about cognitive load may be interesting, though in a more general sense. Of course that researcher wasn't comparing two different ways to format numbers in LC, but there may be aspects of his research which could guide a more detailed assessment here if needed.

That's a big "if", though, because I agree that in both cases cog. load is small enough that the distance between both forms is almost certainly shorter than this thread. :)

I just observe that we talk about numberFormat here a few times a year, even among people who've been using it for decades.

But I can't recall the last time we saw questions here about the format function. More often, as with Paul's post, when format is mentioned here it's as a solution.


> I want "8.9" and I type "0.0" - it's so easy.

Sure, but by itself it doesn't do anything observable.

With format(), you put something in and get something else out in one statement.

With numberFormat, you first change an abstraction in the engine, then do something to a value elsewhere, and if you remembered to do it in the right order, and within a single handler, you'll get what you were looking for.

That is, unless you've forgotten that you'd set the numberFormat to some value further up in the handler for some other reason than the place you happen to be typing in now some 50 lines later, where you're seeing values that aren't what you had expected because you'd overlooked that the numberFormat setting you'd done for one thing 50 lines up is still affecting everything afterward until you reset it. (Who among us has never had that happen to them?) :)


> Nor do I think numberFormat is mostly useful for legacy code and old
> timers, or that more intuitive implies an inferior method. Anything
> but!

Wholeheartedly agree, which is why I wrote:

   When numberFormat can do the job and you want to use it, use it.
   For certain tasks it may be somewhat simpler than the format
   function.


> With both, we can both be happy I'm sure! Always enjoy talking with
> you.

Amen to that, Brother Kenworthy.

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 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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