HI I'm presuming (presumptuous moi?) that my bit about the company not listening elicited what I wanted - somebody from LC to pipe in - the fact that was Kevin was a bonus.
So let me say here and now I LOVE LC and the more I use LC the more I like it BUT.. I will be honest, if I found the site today I wouldn't give it any time at all - seriously!! It was mentioned in a FOXPRO forum and the OP was rounded on by one of the Fox Gurus for 1 thing actually - that the INDY license put a limit on what they could earn (don't mention the fact that it runs out yearly!). Let me state what I stated on MANY occasions. <stream of consciousness> The Differentiation of INDY with Business can stay should be SQLITE for INDY or at least for any future Mobile only versions. The price hike probably wouldn't make this sustainable) and BUSINESS allows say Oracle, SQL server databases and maybe some of the other stuff that they have now (although Andre Garcia and many others would disagree). The main Differentiation should be the support. The $500,000 limit on INDY is on an honour system anyway - LC can't tell whether I made a million last week or not. This is what I can't understand.I for one if I was on INDY (I'm on business now but they made me an offer I couldn't refuse and am still only using 6.7.11) and was earning not even close to $500,000 why wouldn't I upgrade to the next level if only to help the Tool that is bringing in the bread and butter. Related to the above is the fact that the entry level $100 hobbyist market has all but been eviscerated because you cannot use Community to create IOS apps for the APP store is totally illogical to me. XOJO has the $100 ish single OS versions (that do not run out), but you don't get updates after a year. That to me is real world thinking. If I have an APP on the APP store and it is moderately successful - at least returns a few hundred dollars and XCODE is updated so that my version of LC needs to be updated , why wouldn't I update it? If it isn't successful I wouldn't have paid for it anyway. The point being they are losing the impulse purchases of $100 here , hundreds dollars their - I have purchased B4A (all versions for the last 6 years) and have never written anything to sell but I have played with it because $250 for 2 years including the MAC cloud compilation to me is a steal - I have a MAC but I might want to compile on my PC. I have XOJO - I only used it to write something that was problematic within LC and got them to talk - again no-brainer cost. The most expensive development systems I ever paid for was Clipper Summer 84 - £795 (ALPHA5 as well but that's another story) when that was real money - It was not protected in any way and I was given a copy on a couple of disks, but I bought it when a programmer friend convinced me it wasn't the CR*P that DBASE was - because it was the right thing to do. If I didn't have the money at the time. I would have purchased after I had made some money with it - again you either have that attitude or you don't. Some people will be so honourable that they would't even think about using it without paying there and then - i'm a little more pragmatic. What I'm saying is give the $100 entry system for single platforms a try again - the longer you leave it the more chance the XOJO's of this world will catch up. Make sure the yearly upgrade gives them a discount on the full price and you have your "sort of lockin" that you are trying to do now - many companies do it this way (XOJO and B4a are 2 I can mention ) - and I keep upgrading. </stream of consciousness> There are more ideas/thoughts but I have work to finish off - no rest for the really wicked. Kindest Regards Lagi As usual excuse any smelling Pistakes On 14 April 2017 at 10:48, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Kevin: > > Of course we listen. We read what comes in here and on many > > other venues. > > Wow, that post was the perfect confirmation of my thoughts - I knew for > certain that LiveCode was listening as I said, that always has been the > case in my experience, and I had a feeling you were too! > > I've been absolutely clear in making this an open suggestion and frank > observation, not demanding a response or expecting any kind of agreement. > But receiving a response is a nice bonus, thanks for speaking up so quickly. > > I'm in the same boat; unfortunately I often don't have time to speak up on > these trends that come and go, but now and then I make time on one or two, > and it's great to hear from fellow users and CEO alike. I place enough > importance on downloads that this was one of those times, and whatever the > outcome I'm glad I said my piece. :) > > Best wishes, > > Curry Kenworthy > > Custom Software Development > LiveCode Training and Consulting > http://livecodeconsulting.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
