On 28/03/17 12:17, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote:
On 2017-03-28 10:30, Richmond via use-livecode wrote:
In 1996 I bought a copy of Fontographer, having previously developed
several bitmap fonts
for Macintosh with Fontastic (for Anglo-Saxon and Old Slavic). At that
time (1996) it was possible
to use Fontographer to make fonts with about 4000 characters which one
could access through Mac Keyboard layouts. As far as I know, although
Unicode development started in 1986, there was
no question of Unicode compatibility (and I had not heard of Unicode).

Presumably (?) ALL that Macintosh system 7.5 was doing when it
displayed characters outwith the ASCII set was what I need now?

Not necessarily - I believe system 7.5 was pretty advanced when it came to text and fonts. In particular, I'm sure it had an implementation of TrueType at least. The only difference then was that a font might have multiple CMAP tables for different text encodings as the Unicode encoding was still in its infancy. Even bitmap fonts (which might not necessarily have been TrueType) would have to declare what encoding it assumed was being used so that things could be mapped appropriately.

In actual fact, fonts don't really care about encoding exactly - they provide tables which map indexes in an encoding to the glyphs to represent them. Everything inside the font runs on glyph indexes and not codepoints in any encoding. Indeed (as I mentioned in another email) you can use the PUA area for your font as a direct codepoint->glyph map.

I'm glad you find it unusable: I have a G5 iMac (connects to the
Internet using TenFourFox) running
dual-boot 10.4 and 10.5 that is stuffed with lots of PPC software that
I bought when I had more money for that sort of thing than I have now:
I would be lost without the availability of Appleworks and
Bryce.

I'd point out that TenFourFox is a fork of FireFox and is not a Mozilla project.

Is that a point that anyone who is prepared to go on running a PPC Mac should
be worried about?

The same goes for Classilla on my OS 9 G3 iMac :)

My original point was that I feel the word "unusable" is a way too strong way of saying "not
up-to-date in the least".

I'm NOT going to make Amazon purchases with my Debit card on my G3 iMac!

I have a friend who drives a 1980 Lada: it's great because as its incredibly "primitive" not having any on board computers anything that goes wrong can generally be sorted out with a spanner,
a soldering iron and a few vulgar words.


i.e. A third-party has taken the responsibility for maintaining a fork of an open-source project to ensure there is a variant of FireFox which runs on older systems...

I set up a Macintosh 5400 running system 9 and a series of standalones hived off LC/RR 2 derived from my EFL stacks for a chap in a village near here to help the kids at a Syrian refugee camp: certainly a bit ancient, but not unusable. The kids are smiling, and learning basic English vocabulary so they can work out how to become illegal migrants into Britain and
vote for Theresa May . . . or something.

Found a donor who is shipping us 12 more PPC all-in-ones running system 9 . . . . cool; whatever works.


Warmest Regards,

Mark.


Best, Richmond.

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