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>> On 12/31/16 9:53 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote:
So far, at least in this round, the people who have been dropped are
using gmail addresses. I've read about issues with gmail before. If
there is a way to whitelist the LiveCode list, that could help. Since
the drops are caused by the refusal of the receiving domain, I don't
think there is much that LiveCode can do. The list is being sent and
actively rejected by Google filters.

(which I don't have in original form because... I got bounced again just before xmas and have only just re-enabled delivery!)

... I have nothing to do with gmail, at least in relation to any accounts that runrev or its list software knows about, and I've also been bounced at least four times in the last few months.

So I don't think it's a gmail thing specifically.

It is interesting because I've not noticed a similar problem on any non-runrev lists I subscribe to (including other mailman ones). And come to think of it, I'm not sure that I've been bounced from livecode-dev.

Is it that there is a lot of spam being sent to the list (which most of us aren't aware of because our mail services or mail clients sweep it away before we could see it)? If so I'd expect to see them in the archives, and a on a brief scan for the last couple of months I don't see any.

Presumably the only way to debug this is if Heather can catch some of the actual bounces messages from our email servers back to Mailman, to see what reasons are stated in those bounces. Or if anyone is still running their own mail server (why?) and has the problem perhaps they could check their logs.


On 03/01/2017 16:08, Bob Sneidar wrote:
It is possible that someone's list address got harvested and is being actively 
used for populating spam headers, in which case Google spam filters would have 
no way of discerning that the address or entire server was viable.

Bob S


On Dec 31, 2016, at 11:55 , Richmond Mathewson <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

Doesn't say much for Google.

Richmond.

On 12/31/16 9:53 pm, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 12/31/16 2:16 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote:
Really: only 4?

It is a bit farcical.

Richmond.

On 12/31/16 12:48 am, Dr. Hawkins wrote:
This is about the fourth time I've been unsubscribed in the last few
months.

So far, at least in this round, the people who have been dropped are using 
gmail addresses. I've read about issues with gmail before. If there is a way to 
whitelist the LiveCode list, that could help. Since the drops are caused by the 
refusal of the receiving domain, I don't think there is much that LiveCode can 
do. The list is being sent and actively rejected by Google filters.



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