On 01/09/2016 09:48, Peter TB Brett wrote:

Hi all,

What exciting LiveCode project(s) are you working on at the moment?
I'll answer that later today (hopefully), but first a rather negative alternative Q&A.

Q. What exciting LC projects am I *NOT* working on ?

A. Widgets. (any of them, many of them)
At the conference at the start of August, I learned enough about widgets and LCB to be very excited about the possibilities (I still am). So I spent a good chunk of August working on a couple of widgets (out of a long list of exciting widgets I would like to do, or have, or use, or ...)

But in the end I found the programming experience in LCB just too frustrating.

I've been spoiled :-) I'm used to symbolic, interactive debuggers - been using them pretty much continually for the last 45 years that I've been programming, starting with DDT and a proprietary one in the 70s, on to GDB in the 80s and 90s, then interpreted languages for a little while, before finally moving up to Revolution / Livecode. And after trying it for a while, I'm just not willing to go back to the dark ages and program in LCB without a decent toolset that provides really effective diagnostics and debugging features.

So - I'm not doing any more with widgets until the tools are mature enough for it to be an enjoyable experience. And that really bugs me - because there's so much I want to do in widgets, and so much to like about LCB - but for me this is a hobby and programming is a pleasure, and I just don't enjoy working in the dark and the dark ages :-)

-- Alex.
P.S. I skipped the rant about the missed opportunity to provide an interactive, symbolic debugger for website development, that was almost there, briefly, with LC Server and on-rev; website scripts are the one other situation where we (the entire industry) is still (AFAIK) missing a good debugging environment.



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