Thank you all for your ideas, questions and suggestions First of all, as regards who will be coming to the workshop - basically I’ll take anyone with a pulse (might even take the undead…).
Therefore I have to cater for a wide range of capabilities. Maybe in the future when I have more of an established audience/group here I can do stuff more tailored to what they need but as of now I need to cater for as wide an audience as possible (hence my email to the usegroup) That said, from other workshops I’ve done here I think I’ll have two main types - those who are completely new to coding and those who are proficient in other languages and want to give LiveCode a whirl… It sounds like between us all LiveCoders we have a long list of training we would like to receive ourselves, if I have time I’ll set up a Facebook survey thingy to see what the most popular workshop topics might be - and from there we could see what ways we would have to addressing that need. So as to my workshop on September 17th, I think I’m gravitating towards the fun ‘scribbling-on-photos-of-your-friends’ app idea - I know how to do a basic version of scribbling on mobile and if others were to donate more advanced graphic-effect snippets (I’m looking at you John) that would be lovely to keep my more advanced participants happy Kind regards Dave PS: Come to Plymouth on September 17th for a fun day with LiveCode! http://www.meetup.com/The-THINQTANQ-Events-Meetups-and-More-in-Plymouth/events/226749341/ <http://www.meetup.com/The-THINQTANQ-Events-Meetups-and-More-in-Plymouth/events/226749341/> PPS: the £10 charge goes to the venue and not to me... > Ditto what Graham said: > > We semi-proficient coders hit the wall when we create a scrolling group on > desktop and then transfer to our iPhone and it doesn't scroll or set a simple > player to a URL for an mp3 on web server and discover that you need a to > create a mobile player. What if you have content (a little puzzle game) that > really should only be viewed/locked down in landscape? and this is on card 3 > of a stack that is otherwise portrait? on desktop it’s a 4-line-of-code > simple resize trick. "Wow Livecode is so cool" newbie feels proud they > figured that out. Not so on mobile. For the level of workshop you are > targeting perhaps (my guess) this would probably be an "advanced track" .. > these are the things that someone Javascript person watching over your > shoulder says "really, why don't you do this all in HTML 5?" because it like > its soooo hard (in livecode) and the html5 world has thousands of answers…" > [I'm not buying it yet. I've seen some of these html5 apps with their snake > pit of libraries and dependencies and 5 times the lines of code in the end > and the endless javascript debugging of what doesn't-quite-work-right yet… > until the code becomes so opaque that even the developer himself can hardly > read it 6 months later. Give me LC any day… but some things are stil too hard > in LC.] > > And, yes: iOS provisioning, Android developer ID et al: a dark grey mountain > of mystery that needs sunlight for the newbie. after a year.. I *think* have > iOS pretty much figured… but still putting off building for android locally. > Challenge is, non-professionals are no doing this day-in-day-out so we really > depend on thorough documentation and examples, that is missing in manby cases > or out of date (Livecode lessons are pretty good for some things, but not > all) > > So your work shop can include supplementary material on "where to find what > you need to know; disclaimer, everything you need to know may or many not be > there." > > BR > > >> Graham Samuel" <[hidden email] >> <http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4707332&i=0> >> on behalf of [hidden email] >> <http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4707332&i=1>> >> wrote: >> >> so I’d like to see a workshop that creates a trivial app (say a >> variation on the clock/stopwatch theme - but it could be anything), >> discusses the differences (if any) needed in the code for different >> platforms, and which is then actually installed on all the available >> platforms, indicating all the pitfalls of deploying on iOS, Android, Mac, >> Windows, Linux - what installer software to use, getting stuff >> approved/certificated etc. and including a jargon-buster for the deployment >> end of things ("what’s device provisioning?" for example). >> >>> On 4 Aug 2016, at 23:50, Dave Kilroy <d...@applicationinsight.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you all for your ideas and suggestions! >>> >>> I’m summarising them as follows: >>> A drag and drop matching game. >>> A to-do list app. >>> A simple e-reader app. >>> A walking tour app with a map that you can click for additional information >>> and photos. >>> An app that helps with web research (grab text and images, write notes & >>> emails, filter and ordering). >>> A client-server user registration system. >>> A bare bones personal cloud type thing with clients for every platform. >>> Go through all past conferences and look at the different track subject >>> matter. >>> Try to solicit other to be presenters. >>> Focus on UI/UX - everything must look 2016 rather than 1995 >>> >>> I’ve also remembered a suggestion I once got from a teacher for a workshop >>> topic "A humorous photo editor (draw moustaches etc on photos of your >>> friends)" >>> >>> >>> MESSAGING APP >>> >>> @rjd318 this is a link to a thread on the forum from a year ago covering >>> the workshop where we did the messaging app (including an introductory >>> video and download link to get the stack and .lc script) >>> http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=24465 >>> <http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=24465>. Since then I ran >>> another version of this workshop in a different environment and I added >>> some more polish to the app - let me know if what I did was of interest and >>> I’ll dig out the newer version for you. >>> >>> Got any more ideas? Keep ‘em coming! >>> >>> Kind regards >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 4 Aug 2016, at 09:54, Dave Kilroy <d...@applicationinsight.com >>>> <mailto:d...@applicationinsight.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is a request for ideas for LiveCode workshops >>>> >>>> That is, where one of us is organising a day-long workshop on LiveCode and >>>> are looking for a main topic for the day. >>>> >>>> I’m not looking for fully-worked up teaching resources (although that >>>> would be nice), but general ideas or topics for the workshop - so that we >>>> can say to people, and publicise “come to this LiveCode workshop where we >>>> will build …” or “at this LiveCode workshop you will learn how to …”. >>>> >>>> In the past I’ve done LiveCode workshops where the main idea has been: >>>> - build a mobile messaging app (that connects to a web service and mysql >>>> database) >>>> - build desktop widgets (little things like an app that watches a folder, >>>> using the clipboard etc) >>>> - learn how to search documents and save notes with LiveCode >>>> >>>> I think my ideal would be to get an idea which is: >>>> - a ‘draw’ (afterall I want lots of people to turn up!), something like >>>> “learn now to connect to the Pokemon Go! API” >>>> - doesn’t involve me doing too too much preparation work for the workshop >>>> - can give a positive experience to participants with differing levels of >>>> ability (perhaps by my preparing some partly completed exercises for those >>>> who need them) >>>> >>>> So, ideas and suggestions please! >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> PS: my next workshop is on 17th September and I haven’t decided what to go >>>> in it >>>> http://www.meetup.com/The-THINQTANQ-Events-Meetups-and-More-in-Plymouth/events/226749341/ >>>> >>>> <http://www.meetup.com/The-THINQTANQ-Events-Meetups-and-More-in-Plymouth/events/226749341/> >>>> PPS: ask potential participants what the workshop topic should be usually >>>> doesn’t help much! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
