"This is one of those areas where meritocracy trumps democracy" In 1982 at Citibank we created a worldwide information product that had news/weather/stock prices/Commodity prices/FX rates(sound familiar?). We had many meeting on the UI and democracy determined that the various commands should use the "F" keys. So we set up a lab in NYC and brought people in off Park Ave and gave them a series of tasks to complete. It was an immediate bust because when instructed to use the "F2" key 60% of the users typed the letter key "F" followed by the number key "2". So we changed the command to "/2" and 99% of the testers got it correct.
Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -----Original Message----- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin Sent: Monday, February 08, 2016 10:11 AM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: Black icons in LC 8 DP 14 RM wrote: > ????? > > Are these to become the standard revMenuBar button icons, or is this > a blip? I'm glad it's happened, and v8 is the right time for this to happen. The shift to monochrome icons has been a pervasive trend across the UI world for some years now, and I rather like how it simplifies the gestalt of the palette's appearance. In fact, I'd been keeping a mental wish list of low-hanging fruit that can help improve the overall look of the product for some time now, and moving to monochrome icons in revMenuBar was on my list. Coupled with the engine enhancements for appearance, v8 is shaping up well as the version that can attract newcomers better than any version before it. > If they are to become the standard revMenuBar button icons can there > be a community vote as to whether they are preferable over the > previous coloured ones? More useful would be to poll people who *aren't* in our community yet, We need the number of LC developers to grow a multiple beyond our current audience, so the opinions of people with long historic familiarity with LC are in some ways less important than those who've not yet been introduced to it. Democracy is useful for many things, but I'm not sure UI is among them. In fact, I'd argue squarely against it for several reasons: How many in our audience are specialists in UI design? One of the complaints I hear from architects is that because all of their clients live in homes and know how to use a pencil, they all fancy themselves fully qualified to do the work of an architect. :) Using a computer, or even developing software, by itself is not the same as spending decades studying UI and UX. We wouldn't put diagnosis and prescription for coronary conditions to vote, we'd hire a doctor. IMNSHO the same goes for UI. This is one of those areas where meritocracy trumps democracy, and we see meritocracy as the favored model for participation in a great many open source projects. In the well run FOSS projects all views are solicited and welcome, but those ultimately entrusted to see a vision through are those who've demonstrated accomplishment in the area in question. Besides, the beauty of open source is that anyone who really wants just about anything can always have exactly what they want. For example, I've grown very fond of Ubuntu's Unity desktop environment, but I don't imagine for a minute that folks using anything else will have the same preference. So rather than require other people to design the LC menu bar to look how I personally prefer it, I just made a short script that does it on startup and now I have something much closer to my personal preferences while everyone else is still free to enjoy anything they like: <http://fourthworld.net/lc/revmenubar.png> If you really want full-color icons it's not hard to make a plugin that delivers that. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ____________________________________________________________________ ambassa...@fourthworld.com http://www.FourthWorld.com _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode