Richard Gaskin ambassador at fourthworld.com
 
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 wrote on Sat Nov 14, 2015:

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Francis Nugent Dixon wrote:
>/I can’t understand your licence rules, especially as they have been much 
/>/modified since I BOUGHT 5.5 quite some time ago. /
The license that accompanied your software is the only one that governs
the software you received.

Any changes to the license for later versions only affect the versions
shipped with that license.

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   Richard Gaskin
   Fourth World Systems
   Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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There are complexer cases that are not fully covered by Richard's definition. Due to my kickstarter contribution I have got a commercial licence that is valid up to August 2016. Legally that would mean IMHO that I am entitled to develop and distribute software under the conditions of this license, particularly

- to use any commercial-like Livecode version released until August 2016 *forever* and without any restrictions to the possible revenue from sales and not subject to the new subscription scheme, in case I use the latest available Livecode version of August 2016.

Regrettably the license rules have changed now and the changes - in my limited perspective - were not fully transparent to me. I would think that of the two present "near-commercial" licenses only the "business" version would be fully equivalent to the conditions of my own present licence valid up to August 2016.

Unfortunately I have been lured to subscribe to the Indy-license thereby extending my present license from August 2016 to August 2018.

Kevin Miller (on July 2 and repeatedly later on) had invited me in a personal post:

What Can You Do With Indie?
Launch a startup
Win competitions
Build an app that can change the world
Teach kids to code
Teach university students and beginners to code
Develop interactive educational apps
Launch ebooks
Launch apps
...The List Goes On!

What Will You Do With Indie?

You tell us! We can't wait to see your name on the LiveCode Stories page.

Here's what's up:

The price of an Indie License is going up and we don't want it to affect you. $499 will get you an Indie License for 2 years and it will keep you at the low price of $299/year forever after that. Whatever you do with Indie, make sure you get it at the right price. You can lock that price in now:

http://livecode.com/lock-in-your-price
There was no mention that you had to continue a "subscription" after the added two years to be able to produce and sell Livecode-built software and that with "Indy" there would be a revenue limit. I discovered that only later when looking up my personal Livecode account.

The URL <livecode.com/lock-in-your-price> led to the Cleverbridge website <https://www.cleverbridge.com> where an additional VAT sum was added to the price of $499, which was not mentioned by Kevin and which I overlooked initially when accepting Kevin's proposal.

I am also informed on my personal Livecode account that a fixed VAT sum (stipulated on the basis of the dollar-euro exchange rate of July 2015) will be charged each year if I prolong the subscription after 2018.-

These changes could have been handled in a more transparent way by Livecode.

I am considering to revoke my added subscription of Livecode for August 2016 - August 2018 in case an acceptable solution how to use my present commercial license with its conditions - valid up to August 2016 - cannot be found. I hope that until August 2016 Livecode will come up with a usable and stable version that allows me to work in my special fields of interest, a version without regressions and bugs that I then can use *forever* under the terms of my present commercial license.

Kind regards,

Wilhelm Sanke
Emeritus Professor, University of Kassel, Germany











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