What time / day of the week would be good for you Mike? On 17 July 2015 at 14:22, Mike Kerner <mikeker...@roadrunner.com> wrote:
> Most definitely, and doing it, now, with new apps, and think it's of > critical importance. I'm not as server-detatched as I want to be, so I'm > all ears. > > On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 6:28 AM, David Bovill <david@viral.academy> wrote: > > > Is anyone on this list interested in topics of decentralised > architecture? > > I've a long standing interest in them, and there are some very > interesting > > new tools that I feel are of deep relevance to Livecode and the Livecode > > community. > > > > A decentralised architecture is one without servers - communication is > P2P. > > Federated architectures are also interesting, and a mix of both is even > > better. > > > > There are a number of advantages for the Livecode community: > > > > - Stacks and assets are served without a central server > > - No centralised bandwidth and hosting costs > > - No classical denai-of-service attack issues > > - New non-web tool chains posible > > - New authentication and security models > > > > The last two are interesting. Classic web client-server architectures are > > very mature on other platforms. A huge amount of this infrastructure is > > involved in scaling, and managing users. So web servers, caching, > proxies, > > user management, sessions, authentication etc > > > > If you take a close look at code bases of major projects, a great deal of > > it is taken up by managing this basic stuff, and surprisingly little on > the > > actual application. All these areas are also the very areas that Livecode > > is weakest on. We don't have oAuth libraries, robust servers and so on. > So > > we tend to play in this environment as second class citizens. > > > > With P2P architectures this is different. Stacks and files are simply > > served by the architecture in a scalable way. Session and user management > > is often completely different, often using public key infrastructure, and > > sometimes taken care for you by the platform itself. > > > > Another thing makes it of particular interest to Livecode. Many of these > > architectures are no scripted in python / ruby / php etc. They are in > C/C++ > > or Go. Livecode plays much better with these low level languages. LCB > will > > allow us to extend Livecode to be a full integrated citizen in these > > architectures. > > > > If anyone is interested in exploring this area - I'm starting a *research > > group* looking into using Livecode in decentralised environments. I'm > going > > to start weekly Hangouts and make recordings - much like the Livecode TV > > sessions I started a few years back - but with a bit different > technology. > > > > Hangout this Sunday anyone? > > _______________________________________________ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > > -- > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > On the second day, God created the oceans. > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > and did a little diving. > And God said, "This is good." > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode