I was an electrical contractor and did all of that
by myself too.  People say they want work but
it was impossible for me to find someone who
I could depend on.  They think one job can be
a career.  It would take me longer to teach a
new person in the industry than it would to do
the job myself.  A large contractor has the money
and workers to weed them out and keep good
workers.

I have been programming by myself since the Vic
20, commodore 64 and Apple //e.

I would not know how to run team.  That speaks
very highly of Kevin Miller.

John Balgenorth


On Jul 11, 2015, at 12:02 AM, Scott Morrow <sc...@elementarysoftware.com> wrote:

> That’s the same boat that most of us are in, I think. One person driving the 
> entire operation. I’m always interested in how a multi-person LiveCode team 
> would operate. Actually, I’m even more interested in how other individuals 
> operate. Most of us work without being able to observe the workflow of our 
> peers (Hence the recent string of posts on "Best way to check if a Field is a 
> label?”) Which is really a sort of best practice conversation.
> 
> —
> Scott Morrow
> 
>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:49 PM, JB <sund...@pacifier.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am the team!  The program is
>> 80 to 90 percent done and do
>> not need anyone else at this
>> point.
>> 
>> John Balgenorth
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:35 PM, Scott Morrow <sc...@elementarysoftware.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello John,
>>> Just out of curiosity, if you have a “Forever" Enterprise license then are 
>>> you interested in the Indy license for other members of a team?
>>> --
>>> Scott Morrow
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:10 PM, JB <sund...@pacifier.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> They have made a lot of changes.  My Enterprise license
>>>> is Forever.
>>>> 
>>>> I am glad to hear you have the correct amount of space
>>>> and I hope everyone else does too.  I am not using any
>>>> of my space.  I also have a large amount of space with my
>>>> internet provider that I am not using.  Anytime I want I can
>>>> use all the space i need for free.  The Indy offer does not
>>>> interest me because I have reason to believe the program
>>>> I am going to sell will exceed the Indy limits.  That is why I
>>>> said I am more interested in the business license.  I am
>>>> developing that program with Revolution so all of my work
>>>> falls within my Enterprise license.  Recently there were post
>>>> about developing commercial products without a commercial
>>>> license.  What ever the rules are I am legally writing my code.
>>>> 
>>>> John Balgenorth
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:43 PM, Scott Morrow <sc...@elementarysoftware.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> If I had paid ahead for an enterprise license many years into the future 
>>>>> and then the company went open source and licensing schemes changed and 
>>>>> different products became available and I still continued to get a 
>>>>> commercial license for everything, then I would tend to trust the Indy 
>>>>> offer. And hey, that’s exactly what has happened!  And my On-Rev Founders 
>>>>> account shows me allocated 97.66 GB.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Scott Morrow
>>>>> 
>>>>> Elementary Software
>>>>> (Now with 20% less chalk dust!)
>>>>> web       http://elementarysoftware.com/
>>>>> email     sc...@elementarysoftware.com
>>>>> office     1-800-615-0867
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:09 PM, JB <sund...@pacifier.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> No Richard,  it means if I eat kittens I like
>>>>>> to eat pissy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I ddi not start this conversation about the
>>>>>> size limits being changed.  I stated that I
>>>>>> am a on-rev founder and that I am not at
>>>>>> this time using any of the space allocated
>>>>>> to me.  I did not check the space so I said
>>>>>> IF they changed the space and made it lower
>>>>>> then I personally have no reason to believe
>>>>>> the Indie license with its forever price will be
>>>>>> forever.  Yes I received that from LIveCode
>>>>>> and any lifetime agreements that are not to
>>>>>> be honored for your lifetime make me think
>>>>>> a Forever agreement will not last either.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I said IF because I do not know for sure and I
>>>>>> gave them a small benefit of the doubt.  But it
>>>>>> sounded to me like the space was lowered and
>>>>>> if I remember correctly they talked about doing
>>>>>> that in the past so it made me think they actually
>>>>>> did lower it but I do not know so it remains IF.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I see you failed to provide evidence to prove it
>>>>>> one way off another and yet attacked me for
>>>>>> saying IF they lowered the space.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John Balgenorth
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Richard Gaskin <ambassa...@fourthworld.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> JB wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am not using any space but I have no reason to
>>>>>>>> trust the Indie License forever price if forever has
>>>>>>>> a limited meaning to the LiveCode Team.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Using "if" like that is really cool, as it allows us to say things 
>>>>>>> without being accountable to them.  Let me try:  "If JB eats kittens, 
>>>>>>> surely we have no reason to trust him with any pets." Yep, good fun.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Did you actually get a notice from the LiveCode team in which they've 
>>>>>>> attempted to unilaterally alter some contractual agreement with you, or 
>>>>>>> are you just making stuff up?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Richard Gaskin
>>>>>>> Fourth World Systems
>>>>>>> Software Design and Development for Desktop, Mobile, and Web
>>>>>>> ____________________________________________________________
>>>>>>> ambassa...@fourthworld.com        http://www.FourthWorld.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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