Terence Heaford wrote:

> On 5 Mar 2015, at 15:47, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>Terence Heaford wrote:
...
>>> I’ve never had a reported bug resolved.
>>
>> ..except for this one:
>> <http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12961>
>> ..except for this one:
>
> I would submit a bug report for the Text Labels of tabs debacle
> in the Tab Panel if I thought it would do any good?
>
> I believe the bug report for this was started years ago and
> replicated on a number of occasions and has still not been resolved.
>
> Richard, while you have got your ambassador hat on perhaps you could
> advise when it will be sorted out.

Of the four reports I could find that you've submitted only one is outstanding, and the others either fixed by RunRev or abandoned by yourself, as you noted in your follow-up posts here.

Those of us who rely on LiveCode for our work participate in the QA process because it's in our own interest to do so.

For those interested in this text alignment issue in tab controls on OS X, here are the two relevant bug reports:

Bug 6206 - Tab Panels in Mac OS X have incorrect default text vertical position
<http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6206>

Bug 7962 - Tabs not centered horizontally in tab button
<http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7962>


With an audience as large as LiveCode's for a scope of OS coverage few companies have ever attempted, a bug DB can grow into an almost unmanageable beast over time, with a great many older issues either no longer relevant because of changes in the OSes, or sometimes because changes in LiveCode has already addressed the issue.

Trimming the bug DB has been a huge effort over 2014 and continues to this day.

Newly-submitted bugs are usually confirmed within a day or two at most, sometimes within hours, as Paul Hibbert noted with his report this afternoon.

Older issues have been worked through with two large-scope initiatives last year:

- Nearly 2,000 outstanding bugs and feature requests were completed, closed as "Fixed". Not a small effort.

- The remaining items were less clear to the team in terms of their relevance and/or quality of the submitted recipes, so in October Ben took the initiative to send everyone who had outstanding bug reports in the DB a list of those reports with a request that we please review them in the most recent build of LC, and note whether the issue remains or should be closed.


In the period between Ben's emails to bug submitters and now, Apple's changes to their iOS APIs (mostly the 64-bit requirement but others as well) required urgent focus to deliver an update for iOS ASAP. This was done, but it was a non-trivial task, and no doubt distracted them from things like the two reports noted above.

Please note that I tested the reports on text alignment in tab controls in OS X and noted that in one them on March 1.

Perhaps I could have tested it sooner, but to be honest this cosmetic issue may be important for some but it hasn't stopped me from delivering anything I need to deliver for my clients and customers, and not a single one of them has ever mentioned it to me.


Many such cosmetic issues have been slated to be addressed with the Themes architecture, noted on the Roadmap as dependent on the Open Language and accompanying Widgets architecture, which is in development now with the aim of delivering the first v8 DP very soon.

That said, I've raised this cosmetic tab control issue with the team this afternoon to see if a simple fix can be put into place before v8 goes final. I'll report back what I learn.


> ...and please don’t suggest I script my own solution.

A half-dozen of us have been suggesting Bernd's wonderful field object. He already did the work on that. Have you considered trying it?

--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
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