Use the sudo command. Sudo allows an administrator account to masquerade as 
root. You will need to provide the current login password when you do this. I 
have successfully put the password as a second line in a terminal command. The 
current login must be an administrator. 

Bob S


> On Jan 21, 2015, at 07:17 , Ben Rubinstein <benr...@cogapp.com> wrote:
> 
> Bob,
> 
> Thanks for replying - I suspect you're right as to the immediate cause and 
> where something has changed (it might just be about a new certificate, for 
> example).
> 
> However, my real question is why it works in terminal but not using LC 
> "shell"; although calling the same service does work via LC "shell" on my dev 
> machine (including as a standalone).
> 
> Where can one affect the context in which a shell command is executing?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Ben
> 
> On 20/01/2015 19:12, Bob Sneidar wrote:
>> I suspect whatever system you are connecting to has modified in some way how 
>> it encrypts data using SSL. Sounds crazy, but Microsoft recently did 
>> something to their TLS in their cloud offerings that summarily prevented an 
>> entire series of Konica brand copiers from sending email through Exchange 
>> Online. Other series Konicas were fine, and other manufacturers didn’t seem 
>> to have a problem either. I was the only one saying Microsoft had made 
>> changes to their TLS. No one would listen, citing all the other copiers that 
>> still worked.
>> 
>> Finally Konica released a bulletin telling us to install special firmware 
>> and make some changes in the security settings on the affected machines. 
>> What settings you ask? Why, the TLS settings of course!
>> 
>> Bob S
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2015, at 10:59 , Ben Rubinstein <benr...@cogapp.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> An app built in LC, sitting on an old box (PPC Mac Mini running 10.4.11) 
>>> has for several years happily been running a few times a day to perform a 
>>> batch job involving retrieve some data from a remote system, processing it, 
>>> and pushing a report to a new location.
>>> 
>>> Recently, it's not been updating correctly, and investigation has shown 
>>> that the cause is a failure to retrieve the remote data.
>>> 
>>> The remote system (a third-party SaaS product) has a REST interface, 
>>> accessed with simple basic authentication over HTTPS.  I'm not aware that 
>>> anything has changed in their API recently.
>>> 
>>> When I first wrote this app, I found that LC didn't correctly deal with the 
>>> SSL portion (I forget the details); so I recoded it to use the shell 
>>> function to invoke curl to retrieve each element.
>>> 
>>> This has worked fine for a long time.   But now the shell command is 
>>> returning code 35, which according to man curl is:
>>>  35     SSL connect error. The SSL handshaking failed.
>>> 
>>> So the weird thing is:
>>> - if I run this app on my dev machine (Intel Mac running 10.8.5), it works 
>>> fine, happily invoking curl and getting the result
>>> - if I run the curl command in Terminal on the target machine, it works 
>>> fine and retrieves the data
>>> - if I create a shell script to run the curl command on the target machine, 
>>> and invoke that shell script in Terminal, it works fine and retrieves the 
>>> data
>>> - if I modify the app to use 'shell' to run that shell script, instead of 
>>> calling curl directly, it fails with code 35 again.
>>> 
>>> So curl, and shell, are happy on that machine; but using shell in an LC app 
>>> to either invoke curl directly, or run a batch script which invokes curl, 
>>> makes SSL fail.
>>> 
>>> I've marked this possibly OT because I don't think it's necessarily an LC 
>>> problem.  I get the same result with a version of the app built in 2011 
>>> from LC 4.6.4 as with one built now with LC 6.5.2.  But then again, I'm not 
>>> aware that anything has changed on the machine where this runs.
>>> 
>>> Something must have changed; my guess is that it is something in the setup 
>>> of the remote service.  But the nature of that change doesn't disturb curl 
>>> or shell running under Terminal on my target machine; nor when invoked from 
>>> LC on my dev machine.
>>> 
>>> I'm guessing it must be something to do with the environment in which the 
>>> shell command operates when invoked from LC, as opposed to launching a 
>>> terminal window.  This goes considerably outside my knowledge area, so I'm 
>>> appealing for suggestions as to where to investigate...
>>> 
>>> TIA
>>> 
>>> Ben
> 
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