The article I linked to explains what's going on. Pretty technical but bottom line is that Yahoo and AOL changed their rules about what happens when another mail server decides a message is spam.
There's a protocol (DMARC?) that mail servers use to ask the sending server what they should do with messages that look like spam. Yahoo and AOL changed their response to that query a few weeks back from "do nothing" to "bounce". Under the "do nothing" rule, the receiving mail server was then free to do whatever it usually does with spam. Under the "bounce" rule, they bounce the message back to the sending server (silently, meaning the sender doesn't get a bounce message). I guess messages to lists such as ours get caught in this because of the way the headers are changed by the list server software. Most receiving servers recognize those changes and don't classify them as spam but the DMARC rules take precedence over that. Nobody seems to know why Yahoo and AOL did this but speculation is that they suffered massive hack attacks that resulted in their users address books being stolen. I think messages ending up on the gmail spam folder are a separate issue. They're not getting bounced under the above scenario, they're just getting caught in gMail's spam detection algorithms. I use gMail and very occasionaly a message to the list used to go to my spam folder before I set up a filter similar to Peter Brigham's Pete lcSQL Software <http://www.lcsql.com> Home of lcStackBrowser <http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html> and SQLiteAdmin <http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 8:09 AM, J. Landman Gay <jac...@hyperactivesw.com> wrote: > I'm pretty sure it's AOL. Their spam filters are excessive, I've had > clients with AOL addresses I couldn't write to if my email contained > certain trigger words. If there's a way to set up a white list it would > probably help. > > On August 29, 2014 7:30:05 AM CDT, dunb...@aol.com wrote: > >I just got another notice that my list membership had been disabled due > >excessive bounces. Happens weekly. > > > > > >Not sure why. > > > >Craig > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Kay C Lan <lan.kc.macm...@gmail.com> > >To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > >Sent: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 12:35 am > >Subject: Re: Strange mailing list email. > > > > > >On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Nicolas Cueto <nicon...@gmail.com> > >wrote: > >> Months back or maybe even last year, I had to set a gmail filter so > >that > >> some members' list-messages came through despite being marked as > >spam. > >> Alain Farmer's and Craig Newman's are such two. There may be others > >too > >> (not Peter Haworth's). > >> > >Same here, all of Craig's emails end up in my Spam as do most, but not > >all of Alain's. Peter's did this once, but I think only because it's > >part of this thread. > > > >Sorry, I should rephrase that. Gmail puts them in my Spam, as I'm keen > >to read all of Craig's, Alain's and Peter's contributions I take them > >out of Spam, read them, label them appropriately and save for future > >reference. Don't wont you to get the wrong impression ;-) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >use-livecode mailing list > >use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >subscription > >preferences: > >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >use-livecode mailing list > >use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >subscription preferences: > >http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
