Arg.  LiveCode doesn’t lie, but sleepy Dar might not point out what is 
significant.  

Being twice in the message path is a characteristic of messages sent to 
libraries and has nothing to do with any being a substack.  It is a library 
thing.

The issue with the substack is that the main stack is in the path of messages 
sent to it.  

Enough said, before I say something stupid again.

Dar


On May 8, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Dar Scott <d...@swcp.com> wrote:

> I goofed.  What I said isn’t right.  I didn’t remember the quirk right.
> 
> Here it is right from LiveCode itself for a stack, its substack also wearing 
> the hat of a library, and some other stack.
> 
> Listed is the target and the current stack name in the message path crawl.  
> (Non-stacks are skipped in the message path log.)
> 
> button "Test" -- stack "Test main stack"
> button "Test" -- stack "Test Sub Stack" of stack "Test main stack"
> bottom
> 
> stack "Test Alt Stack" -- stack "Test Alt Stack"
> stack "Test Alt Stack" -- stack "Test Sub Stack" of stack "Test main stack"
> bottom
> 
> stack "Test Sub Stack" -- stack "Test Sub Stack" of stack "Test main stack"
> stack "Test Sub Stack" -- stack "Test main stack"
> stack "Test Sub Stack" -- stack "Test Sub Stack" of stack "Test main stack"
> bottom
> 
> The first two cases are as we would expect for any library stack.  
> 
> The third case would apply to things such as messages sent to the substack.  
> I don’t know about built-in messages like socketTimeout.  As you can see the 
> substack is in the message path twice.  Handlers that change something and 
> pass would be affected.  
> 
> Dar
> 
> 
> On May 8, 2014, at 7:37 AM, Dar Scott <d...@swcp.com> wrote:
> 
>> I think using a substack as a library is OK.
>> 
>> Remember that the main stack is in the message path of the substack.  So, 
>> you will have the main stack twice in the message path for cards and 
>> controls.  This is probably fine.  But, something like a keystroke counter 
>> in the main stack might count them twice.  
>> 
>> There might be some packaging issues if you make a splash screen, but others 
>> would know better than I.  If the sub stack depends on the main stack and 
>> they both become sub stacks in standalones, there is a potential for 
>> slightly different behavior in the standalone.  
>> 
>> Dar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 8, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Terence Heaford <t.heaf...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your comments.
>>> 
>>> I have just placed the DBRoutines into a substack and placed "start using" 
>>> in the preOpenStack handler.
>>> 
>>> That seems to be a workaround for not having folders in the IDE.
>>> 
>>> Are there any downsides to this method?
>>> 
>>> I have downloaded and tried GLX2 but there are issues on my Mac concerning 
>>> the display of text being corrupted.
>>> 
>>> Something like —> in GLX2 would be useful in the LiveCode IDE.
>>> 
>>> I also thought that an updated IDE was one of the stretch goals of the 
>>> Kickstarter campaign.
>>> How is that going?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All the best
>>> 
>>> Terry
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8 May 2014, at 13:55, Dar Scott <d...@swcp.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Stack libraries have some nice advantages for me.  I sometimes put some 
>>>> things such as tables into controls.  They are often wrappers for 
>>>> externals.  (Or maybe the externals are helpers for the libraries.)
>>>> 
>>>> If you have a card for putting odd things and the card never shows, you 
>>>> might want to put some objects there to represent your modules and put the 
>>>> scripts into those.  Name them after the modules.  put them in front or in 
>>>> back as seems right when you open your stack.
>>>> 
>>>> If you need some module only on cards with certain background groups, then 
>>>> consider whether those scripts belong in the group.
>>>> 
>>>> If you have a family of applications that use the same splash-screen main 
>>>> stack, consider putting those things that are special to the family in 
>>>> that stack.
>>>> 
>>>> Dar Scott
>>>> Controls, Libraries and Externals
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