On 08/02/14 18:11, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
Gmail handles replies to list email a little differently. Unless I
specifically hit reply on bobs email it just quotes the last one in the
thread.
Dunno about that: I use Gmail and view it via ThunderBird where each
emial comes in non-threaded: I find
that a lot easier than viewing it in a browser or a threaded system.
Cannot recommend it enough: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/
Richmond.
Andrew
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Andrew Kluthe <and...@ctech.me> wrote:
Richmond,
My response was directed towards Bob.
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 10:08 AM, Richmond <richmondmathew...@gmail.com>wrote:
On 08/02/14 17:51, Andrew Kluthe wrote:
"Those who choose to obey the laws" are either those who are the
beneficiaries of such instruments, or to whom the instrument has rendered
all other choices and possibilities unworthy of consideration. The point
is
that even in western democracies, people don't actually have a choice in
the matter. You obey or you are punished. That is the presupposition of
the
whole concept: removal (whether it is perceived as voluntary or
otherwise)
of choice to those who know properly how to do the choosin'.
Government in North Korea is maintained by the same force and threats as
it
is in most any western democracy. The difference being that in western
democracies the populace is encouraged to take an actionable role in
their
own subjugation and the subjugation of others in an attempt to feel like
we
belong and have agency in such matters. We are allowed to choose
wallpaper
patterns for the homes we are allowed to live in by being obedient enough
to be granted some kind of economic privilege. In exchange for our
co-operation, we earn a chance at a more personally satisfying (to some)
servitude. Should any groups of people in a western democracy decide
against being servile, we know for sure that force will arrive there to
restore servility.
I'd prefer not to allow my liberty to be (or at least work to prevent
from
being) bound by involuntary contracts like constitutions, writs and the
like.
And after reading over the thread again I'd like to point out:
"Those who choose to obey the laws (that they themselves are protected
by I
might add) do not need to be compelled."
This phrase strikes me now as something very similar to what a gangster
might say when attempting to expand a protection racket.
I'm not suggesting that you
To whom does "you" refer to?
Unless that is cleared up somebody is going to feel their nose has been
put out of joint :)
Richmond.
are a gangster or run a protection racket, of
course, but that the logic being implied by your concept of governance
lines up perfectly with what I am describing. I think that we are in
agreement about function but just have different biases and perspectives
into those functions.
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 1:48 AM, Richmond <richmondmathew...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 08/02/14 07:06, Bob Sneidar wrote:
Only upon the lawless. :-) Those who choose to obey the laws (that they
themselves are protected by I might add) do not need to be compelled.
Bob
There is a small problem there.
I am sure that most of us here on the Use-List would applaud a North
Korean who broke certain of that
country's draconian laws,
and, furthermore,
do not feel groovy about the sort of compulsion that goes on there.
Now that is one end of a continuum, and the question is, and always has
been,
where one should decide breaking a law is legitimate protest and where
it
is
a crime.
Richmond.
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