On 07/10/2013, at 6:20 AM, Alejandro Tejada <capellan2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If LiveCode Community had, for default, a text file format
> for LiveCode stacks, How could this benefit developers
> and the platform at large?
> 
> http://newsletters.livecode.com/october/issue158/newsletter1.php
> 
> Thanks in advance!

Hi Alejandro

The myth that LiveCode having a native text file format would solve all the 
problems I've been trying to tackle with lcVCS is just that.. myth. The two 
significant issues I mention in that article still need to be overcome. 

The first is that our stackFiles save session data etc that needs to be cleared 
or reset to defaults during the save so it doesn't cause conflicts. It might be 
possible to resolve in the engine, however, that might involve having to set 
default values for many properties so the engine would know what to export and 
I think it would be unworkable in practice. Imagine the example I use in the 
article of a resizeStack handler. You want your code to run when resetting the 
size of the stack. 

The second is the ID issues I've discussed on various lists a number of times 
which can be resolved at engine level but it doesn't look like we have support 
for that from RunRev.

There are also many benefits in using the very compact binary file format that 
our stackFiles are saved in. It shouldn't be underestimated either. For example 
I have a 6KB stack I use as a testbed for lcVCS and exported as text it is 
336KB. Imagine 8 boolean properties. In a binary file format you can store them 
in a single byte. In a text file format you need to write out the name of each 
property and it's value.

On the up side I'm getting pretty close to the best of both worlds with lcVCS. 
The engine saves it's stackFile and lcVCS is automatically run as a separate 
process using a command line interface to export it. Git hooks re-build the 
stackFiles after a checkout, merge or rewrite as long as the merge didn't have 
conflicts. If it did then you import and resolve conflicts using the plugin. 
The workflow is getting fairly close to what you would have with any other 
platform other than there's a little delay between your save and the text 
representation being available to commit.

Of course you may be wanting to discuss just changing to a text format but not 
being interested in version control. If so then I'd struggle to see any benefit 
at all.

Cheers

--
Monte Goulding

M E R Goulding - software development services
mergExt - There's an external for that!





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