oops, i forgot that I asked this question :(

(un)luckily I still have this nagging feeling i'm doing things wrong :)

the printable area is not the printRectangle, and when I test that by making a 
rectangle the size of the card while the card is the size of the 
printRectangle, i get a large right- as well as somewhat down-shifted printouts.

i'm still interested in a more precise/different way to find out the actual 
width and height of what I can print into (assuming flexibility with allowing 
any settings to change). This is my current approach:

put item 3 of the printRectangle -  item 1 of the PrintRectangle -
item 1 of the printMargins - item 3 of the printMargins into
myEffectivePrintWidth

put item 4 of the printRectangle -  item 2 of the PrintRectangle -
item 2 of the printMargins - item 4 of the printMargins into
myEffectivePrintHeight

I somewhat suspect the printgutter to maybe shift this around.. haven't tested 
that tho.

On 10.06.2013, at 21:51, J. Landman Gay wrote:

> On 6/10/13 10:24 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I'm trying to print a kind of report, and am weirded out by all the
>> different rectangles and widths that are available (printRectangle,
>> printPaperRectangle, printPaperSize, printMargins, etc.)
>> 
>> All I want is the printable area, so I can set the width and height
>> of my stack to that amount, then print the first card.
>> 
>> It seems that the below lines produce an approximation amount, but
>> it's not completely correct. The approach also so weirdly backwards
>> and roundabout! I guess my question is, isn't there any way to get
>> the same or a better result more easily?
>> 
>> put item 3 of the printRectangle -  item 1 of the PrintRectangle -
>> item 1 of the printMargins - item 3 of the printMargins into
>> myEffectivePrintWidth
>> 
>> put item 4 of the printRectangle -  item 2 of the PrintRectangle -
>> item 2 of the printMargins - item 4 of the printMargins into
>> myEffectivePrintHeight
> 
> All printers include areas of the paper that they can't print on. Usually 
> that's about a quarter inch on the sides and a half inch at the bottom and 
> sometimes the top, but each printer is different. The printRectangle gives 
> you the actual area that the printer is capable of printing to.
> 
> The printMargins add extra space to that area, so you don't want any 
> printMargins. Set all the printMargins to zero.
> 
> Method One:
> 
> If the card objects are not exactly at the edges of the card, then the card's 
> blank space will also be added to the printout. If you want objects to appear 
> exactly within the printer's available area, place card objects at the very 
> edges and top of the card. Usually that means you need to make a separate 
> stack just for printing because in the real stack it looks bad.
> 
> After all that is done, you can just print directly using the printRectangle 
> to determine the size the card should be:
> 
>   set the rect of this stack to the printRectangle
> 
> Set the printing stack's visibility to false so that the user can't see it 
> move to the top left of the screen. You'll probably want to rearrange the 
> objects at the edges of the newly sized card before printing.
> 
> Method Two:
> 
> Alternately you can print the card "into rect" and use the printRectangle as 
> the target rect. This won't require a separate printing card. That is easier 
> but this method will resize the card objects, which may or may not be what 
> you want:
> 
>   print this cd from the topLeft of firstObject to the bottomRight of 
> lastObject into rect the printRectangle
> 
> 
> -- 
> Jacqueline Landman Gay         |     jac...@hyperactivesw.com
> HyperActive Software           |     http://www.hyperactivesw.com
> 
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