The sort value of each line does not depend on 'each' in this case. On May 22, 2013, at 7:16 PM, Jacques Hausser wrote:
> Chris, I think Randy has put his finger on something: the * is before any > number or letter in the ASCII numeration. I do not know what the random > function uses when randomizing a "set" (I was not even aware of this > possibility) but that could well be the ASCII value(s) of the first char(s). > > Jacques > > Le 23 mai 2013 à 02:36, Randy Hengst <iowahen...@mac.com> a écrit : > >> Well Chris, I'm sure you've already tried this, but when this kind of thing >> happens to me… in other words, when a script is correct, but the results are >> wrong… I've messed something up later in the script with another put >> statement that overrides it. Maybe the place in the script where you've >> removed the * >> >> My debugging skills are not top notch… So, I'd brute force things and put an >> "answer tPossibleAnswers" after each line to see what is happening… and >> again at the end of the handler. >> >> I'd be interested in what you discover. >> >> be well, >> randy >> ----- >> On May 22, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the suggestions everyone, but I'm still getting strange results, >>> and I'm beginning to think there's something I'm doing that's affecting use >>> of the random() function. Not really sure what it would be though. Here's >>> my code: >>> >>> set the itemDel to tab >>> put "*" & item 3 of sRecSet into tPossibleAnswers -- correct answer >>> put cr & item 4 of sRecSet after tPossibleAnswers -- distractor 1 >>> put cr & item 5 of sRecSet after tPossibleAnswers -- distractor 2 >>> sort lines of tPossibleAnswers by random(999999) -- randomly re-order the >>> list >>> >>> This app pulls words from a database and presents three possible answers to >>> choose from. The asterisk above is used to identify the correct answer >>> after the sort takes place. It's removed later on. The sort only works >>> randomly one time. After that, the same sort order is used every time, so >>> the correct answer *always* ends up listed first. It doesn't matter if I >>> use a very high number or if I use 'the number of lines of >>> tPossibleAnswers'. Something is very strange. Just as a quick test, I added >>> a button to the card with this inside: >>> >>> put "one" & cr & "two" & cr & "three" into tLines >>> sort lines of tLines by random(the number of lines of tLines) >>> answer tLines >>> >>> This seems to work just fine. Yes, it does mean getting the same order >>> sometimes twice or maybe even three times in a row, but not usually more >>> than that, which would be fine in this case. So I'm not sure what's going >>> on with my actual code. I'm no longer setting the randomSeed or anything >>> like that. >>> >>> The other strange thing is no matter what I try, if I use the random() >>> function or the any keyword in anyway, I get similar results. Something is >>> affecting the "randomness". This is for an iOS app, btw, if that makes any >>> difference to anyone. This might be kind of a dumb thing to do, but the >>> only other thing I can think of would be to add several more lines of data >>> to the three actual possible answers, then sort the whole thing, then >>> somehow filter out everything I added before the sort. With more lines, >>> maybe I'd get better results? >>> >>> Thanks again, >>> Chris >>> >>> On May 22, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Dar Scott <d...@swcp.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I think you are going to get the first line of the original list (correct >>>> answer) about half the time. Does that seem right to you from what you >>>> have seen? The correct answer will be in the first two about 80% of the >>>> time. >>>> >>>> Using the larger argument for random should give you better proportions. >>>> You should get it in the first line a third of the time. >>>> >>>> If you only interested in the first line, there might be some methods that >>>> are clearer and more fun. >>>> >>>> Dar >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 22, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have a list of three words that I need to be randomly sorted. To start >>>>> with, the first word is the correct answer to a question. I want to >>>>> re-order the list so that the correct answer may be the second or third >>>>> word, and not necessarily the first. How can I do this successfully every >>>>> time? The docs give an example like this: >>>>> >>>>> sort lines of myVar by random(the number of lines of myVar) >>>>> >>>>> But this only seems to work successfully one time. After that, the list >>>>> is always set so the first word is the correct answer. So then I tried >>>>> randomly setting the randomSeed value, since this value is supposed to >>>>> affect the random() function and the any keyword, but this didn't seem to >>>>> make much difference except to change it so either the second or third >>>>> word is *always* the right answer. I need it to be more mixed up than >>>>> that. >>>>> >>>>> So does anyone have a good way to do this? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Chris Sheffield >>>>> Read Naturally, Inc. >>>>> www.readnaturally.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>>> subscription preferences: >>>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> use-livecode mailing list >>>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>>> subscription preferences: >>>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
