Sounds like a great talk Richard. I think it's too easy for people to dismiss the hello world type demo with .. it's just a toy if that's all it can do. Maybe in an education setting that's fine but certainly not at UbuCon. Real case studies like you delivered clearly demonstrate that you can produce quality apps on this platform. If you have slides it might be worth sharing and spreading the url via social networks.
On 26/02/2013, at 6:46 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Mark Talluto wrote: > > > Would you tells us more about your presentation? What did you > > discuss? How many people attended? Give us all the gory details. > > I saw the number jump in a big way over the weekend. I attributed > > it to you getting all the Linux gurus excited about LiveCode. > > I'll be as brief as I can be (not easy for me <g>), since I need to catch up > on some things now that I'm back in the office, but here goes: > > UbuCon is one of several Special Events that take place at the SoCal Linux > Expo on the Friday before the expo weekend. We were scheduled a room which > could accommodate about a hundred people, but were often spilling out into > the hallway, and of course with Jono Bacon's talk on the exciting new Ubuntu > smartphone and tablet demos we were packed beyond belief (UbuCon will be > getting a bigger room next year). > > SCaLE as a whole brought in a record crowd, nearly doubling last year's > attendance to bring this year to 2,300. If this were any other crowd, being > among that many people so much smarter than me would have been intimidating, > but this was a Linux expo, so it's more about just sharing knowledge in a fun > environment so everyone gets smarter together. :) > > While UbuCon itself is a relatively small part of SCaLE, we did have a lot of > traffic drop in from other tracks on Friday, and having the LiveCode talk > outlined in the schedule probably didn't hurt, as people who had been to > UbuCon talked to their friends, and those who just stumbled across it in the > listings on their own and were curious about it. > > Monte and I corresponded before UbuCon, and agreed that spending too much > time actually coding is less compelling for an introduction than simply > giving a high-level overview of the tool with lots of slides showing examples > of nice apps from the community (thanks to Ken Ray and Scott Rossi and others > who've made screen shots available of their work - I was able to pull > together a good mix of desktop and mobile apps on all platforms, using a > couple of products I manage as case studies). > > The only scripting I showed live was a simple "Hello World' app that just put > text into a field, but the concept of such tight integration between GUI > objects and the language that manipulates them is such an important > distinction with LiveCode that I got a lot of mileage out of it, allowing me > to introduce the messaging system and a bit of the object model. > > And of course I built the app, for Win and Mac in addition to Linux, and > showed them how LC builds them into folders ready to be shared. I ran the > Linux app of course, but then showed them the app size (about 2.5Bs), noting > that unlike Python and so many other alternatives LC apps are true > standalones, giving a brief description of its modest system requirements and > its unusually small number of system dependencies. > > I wrapped the talk up with a discussion of the open source initiative, the > dual-licensing, the Kickstarter, and a description of the plans outlined on > the Kickstarter page. When I mentioned the amount Jono nodded knowingly, and > I noted that pretty much everyone I've talked to about serious code base > management at this scale always seems to have that reaction to the cost of > refactoring such a massive beast. > > In discussion with the many people who came up to me to ask about LiveCode > through the rest of the weekend, it seemed more than a few had become > seriously curious about this strange new toy. We'll see how it goes... > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World > LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com > Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com > Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/FourthWorldSys > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode -- M E R Goulding Software development services Bespoke application development for vertical markets mergExt - There's an external for that! _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
