Hi Keith. Being in IT for as long as I have, I do not think the difficulty is 
in enticing anyone to try Livecode. The real difficulty as I see it is 
threefold. First, development companies are typically standardized around the 
big ones, C and it's variants, and Java. If you want a job as a developer, you 
MUST know one or all of these. 

Second, these systems have a multi-developer capability that Livecode simply 
does not have, although efforts have been made to achieve that end. Thirdly, 
developers have already spent a lot of money and time becoming certified and 
proficient in what languages they already know. To abandon all of that in favor 
of a system they do not know, or know the advantages AND the limitations of, is 
asking just a little too much of them. 

I can cite a fourth, though some may certainly disagree with me. Pride. People 
take pride in their own accomplishments, and have established a certain degree 
of credibility among their peers in the circles and systems they are familiar 
with. They look down on other systems as "less than adequate" and "not really 
serious" not because they KNOW all about Livecode and can make that judgement, 
but simply because they are proud of what they know and can do, and are not 
about to give that up without some kind of order of magnitude in advantage that 
you can show them. 

So how do we show them that order of magnitude of advantage? Simple. Develop 
professional looking applications in ridiculously short periods of time, and 
then demonstrate them. Yes, it is much simpler to code in Livescript (can I 
call it that?) but high end developers are not looking for simplicity. In fact, 
they would probably perceive simplicity of the language a detriment, assuming 
that it limited the developer in what they can do. 

I don't mean to be such a naysayer, but I do think it is important for us to 
quantify why it is so hard to get high level programmers to consider Livecode 
as an alternative, at least for some of their applications. 

Bob


On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:34 AM, Keith Clarke wrote:

> I know I'm not alone in having great difficulties in getting experienced 
> developers to withhold their judgement on LiveCode being anything more than 
> hobby-ware.  
> 
> If RunRev want to bring developers across the great divide, there must be a 
> bridge from where the masses reside to the brave new world?
> 
> Is there any kind of 'Rosetta Stone' that relates traditional and OO 
> development concepts to those of LiveCode?
> 
> Are there any specific switcher's or evaluator's guides targeted at the main 
> development communities, such as .Net, Java, C++, C#...
> Best,
> Keith..


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