I think people have to feel put out themselves before they "get it". It says 
something about the base nature of humans as they now stand. I remember as a 
kid bringing home something I found laying in the front yard of someone's home. 
When my father saw it, he stopped up short, and asked, "Where did you get 
that?" I answered, "I found it in someone's yard." 

He got a long look on his face, said, "Did you buy it with your own money?" 
"no..." "Did someone give it to you as a gift?" "no....."

"THEN PUT IT BACK! IT DOESN'T GOD D**NED BELONG TO YOU!" 

>From then on I used that as my measuring stick for what theft was. Thanks Dad 
>for making me feel pain. 

Bob


On Sep 2, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Timothy Miller wrote:

> When immoral behavior becomes common, profitable, and more or less anonymous, 
> it is no longer generally regarded as immoral. If the victim is distant 
> stranger, or an abstraction, like a corporation, the sense of immorality 
> diminishes further.
> 
> When people find hundred dollar bills lying around outdoors, with no apparent 
> explanation, how many will turn the money over to authorities, pending 
> identification of the rightful owner? For that matter, how many of us would 
> do that?
> 
> My 24 year old son has a normal conscience -- he is not mean or selfish in 
> other ways. He does not hesitate to download pirated music, he's got many 
> gigs of it, and he's figured out some way to download a pirated version of 
> almost any book he wants, to read on his Kindle. He would not hesitate to use 
> pirated software, though he doesn't know how. His conscience is entirely 
> silent on these topics. He thinks I'm weird because I prefer to pay for the 
> music I listen to.
> 
> By comparison, I once tried to publish a commercial application and I'm the 
> author of a copyrighted book for which I received well-earned royalties.
> 
> My son's behavior gives me pain. Yet he seems unable to conceive of the 
> possibility that his actions are immoral or harmful. He seems to think I am 
> an old-fashioned fuss-budget about copyrights. He is dismissive about the 
> possibility that authors might stop writing or musicians might stop 
> recording. Everyone he knows has the same point of view, except me and his 
> Mom.
> 
> Meanwhile, maybe we should zoom out and look at the bigger picture. About 
> sixteen percent of the world's population consumes 80% of its resources. This 
> is not exactly fair, either. Are we all pirates, squabbling among ourselves 
> for a "fair" share of the loot? Maybe "fair" is an illusion, often 
> self-serving.
> 
> Dukkha.
> 
> Tim 
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