On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Richmond <richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote: > Presumably it is "Dr Hawkins", although Dr Hawkins seems not to understand > how > to use titles, as one only puts "Esq." (notice the full-stop)
Someone lost mine while quoting. See the unquoted signature below. > after the name of somebody > who is male, over 21 and does NOT have a doctorate (or, in the case of a > physician, an MB). In the United States, it is put after the name of all admitted attorneys (we don't have a solicitor/barrister distinction). Whether you don't use the Dr. if an Esq., or don't use the Esq. if a Dr., seems to have a split of opinion. If you want to toss in *everything, it's Dr. Richard Edmund Stephen Hawkins, J.D., Ph.D., Esq. > On writing to somebody who has "Esq." after their name one usually begins a > letter: > > Dear Mr XXXX > > Although my inclination in the case of somebody who seems to be trying to be > pompous by > putting "Esq." after their own name (which one doesn't do; one calls oneself > "Mr" and they address the envelope "Richmond Mathewson. Esq.") is to address > them in one of the If I filed a pleading *without* the Esq. in the name in a court that wasn't familiar with me, it would probably trigger a check by the clerk to see if I was a lawyer. And clients expect it; send a letter without one and they ask why the other lawyers have it and you don't . . . OTOH, I've never introduced myself as "Dr. Hawkins" outside of an academic setting. (however, I'd likely do so in response to an M.D. who introduces himself as "Dr. Smith." I'm a real doctor, not a physician, and don't have the inherited inferiority complex (oddly mixed with a God complex) that comes from the modern M.D. being a watered down thing designed with the explicit purpose of borrowing the respect/prestige/not-killing-people of the doctors of the university. Having taken out one of the two key features of what "doctor" meant for a couple of thousand years, they progressed to claiming to be "real doctors." [note: some are, but most have never *contributed* to knowledge]) This account is dochawk instead of hawk for the simple reason that early gmail required at least 6 characters, and my students were already receiving email from a dochawk account at Penn State. -- The Hawkins Law Firm Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 hawkinslawf...@gmail.com 3025 S. Maryland Parkway Suite A Las Vegas, NV 89109 _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
