And ... what do you do if part of your failure instance includes a lack of 
network connectivity?  No way back from that one.  Just saying...

Tim

On May 31, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

> OIC that makes sense then. I priced out some of these online backup systems 
> like Carbonite, and by the time you pay as much as a 2 tb drive with 
> enclosure would cost, you could have paid for a 5 year subscription to 
> Carbonite. 5 years is as much as you can expect a drive that is used for Time 
> Machine to go. Mine is on the verge of crapping out, so I am considering just 
> paying for an online backup instead. Trouble is, full backup and restore is s 
>  l  o  w   .   The next tier though has a local drive backup as well as the 
> online backup. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On May 31, 2012, at 12:57 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote:
> 
>> bob,
>> 
>> alternate drive is for redundancy if a drive were ever to poop out and I 
>> keep one off site or in a firesafe if here as well for the theft/fire issue. 
>> 
>> I learned this thru a friend who had a very redundant backup system. only 
>> problem was not good about offsite and there was a fire in the office took 
>> out everything with fire, heat, smoke, and water damage... another friend 
>> had his laptop and the backup drive attached (only one) stolen from his home 
>> -- again SOL.
>> 
>> also ive had a couple of drives go by a head coming loose and that pretty 
>> much leaves you with nothing to recover...
>> 
>> main drive system is a redundant raid as well. few hundred buck investment 
>> over the years gives me a nice safety net and this system has spun along 
>> fine now for 5 years w/o any hickups due to the drives. my experience with 
>> backup systems has been total murphy's law.
>> 
>> watching a few other folks trying to recover from a data disasters has 
>> taught me as they all took huge number of hours (translate that to work 
>> hours lost), bucks in data recovery efforts, and im sure a few weeks of 
>> their life expectancy...
>> 
>> over the years ive dealt with most kinds of tape and cartridge backup 
>> systems as well with clients and companies ive worked with and most have 
>> worked but talk about a pain to reconstruct, was rarely easy or fast, hence 
>> when drives got cheap enough i moved fast!
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> jeff
>> 
>> On May 31, 2012, at 3:33 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Should not need to alternate drives with Time Machine. 
>>> 
>>> Bob
>> 
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