On 05/31/2012 10:08 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
TANSTAAFL. There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. Even Hypercard was not free. We paid for it 
when we paid for the Mac it was installed on. People who want things to always be free need to also 
consider the term "freeloader". Someone somewhere pays for the "free" thing.

Even if Apple gave away Hypercard to people who bought a mac without it, Apple 
would still be paying for it. In the case of all those other things, the 
taxpayer is paying for it, or else the company that hired him is paying for it, 
and actually he is likely himself paying for it because he is probably getting 
paid less considering he is getting paid in benefits instead of salary.

I am always very wary when people offer me something for free. Either they are 
trying to sell me something else later, or they are performing a social 
experiment.

For "social experiment" read 'cult'.


Bob


On May 31, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Bernard Devlin wrote:

I'm not sure they would use Livecode anyway.  They want to moan about
"the good old days", but when presented with language xyz which is
free, and which has hundreds of free libraries, etc. they will find
something to bitch about when it comes to Livecode.  "What?  I have to
pay for it!  But, I get my travel, gas, electricity, food, etc. for
free; why should I pay?"  Or else they will complain about there not
being source code control, or something else.

I think that those who will come to Livecode have either never used
Hypercard before and want a visual development environment without an
arcane language, or they will be people who appreciate dynamic
languages and late binding who somehow don't want to use
javascript/browsers as their presentation layer.  Or possibly there
are those who just find all the other options for mobile development
too unamenable (5 years ago I would never have guessed that Objective
C would have come back from the dead).

That's my 2c.

Bernard

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Bob Sneidar <b...@twft.com> wrote:
You know, advertising for Livecode should really focus on informing the old Hypercard 
community that Hyper Programming is not gone forever, that it lives on in Livecode. There 
seems to be a LOT of people mourning "the good ol' days" of Hypercard, who are 
completely oblivious of Livecode. Posting to a blog is ok, but who out of all the initial 
readers is actually following that post? Probably not a lot. And who reads through all 
the replies before posting themselves? Far less still. I'd say almost no one.

I put in a good word there, but RR really needs to put a little more effort in 
running ads targeted at old HC, SC and MC devs.

Bob
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