Paul,

That would be of interest to me.  What do you have cooking?

-= Mike



On May 25, 2012, at 12:27 AM, Paul Looney wrote:

> Peter,
> 
> Suppose there was a database built with LiveCode, that required no SQL, that 
> worked with your data, that made your data multi-user, that provided 
> encryption for the network, that ran really fast, that let you tweak your 
> data and interface as you wished?
> 
> Would this interest you?
> 
> Paul Looney
> 
> On May 24, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Peter M. Brigham, MD wrote:
> 
>> On May 24, 2012, at 6:36 PM, Paul Looney wrote:
>> 
>>> Bill,
>>> 
>>> I've been following the RunRev list comments about lcTaskList speed.
>>> 
>>> For what it is worth
>>> 1. I have 46 large stacks open on my desktop (just for testing, I don't 
>>> work this way)
>>> 2. Some of these are substacks, most are main stacks
>>> 3. I have two large, 2000+ lines, stack scripts open in the Script Editor
>>> 4. The largest stack has 510 fields and 282 buttons
>>> 5. The largest stack script is 2327 lines of code
>>> 6. I'm guessing that, in open plugins, substacks, btns and flds, there are 
>>> over 100,000 lines
>>> 7. I'm testing with and without the script editor open and the message box 
>>> displayed
>>> 8. The TaskList is correctly displaying 23 FIXMEs
>>> 
>>> Updating the TaskList is almost instantaneous - too fast to time - 
>>> certainly less than 2 seconds. Could not ask for better!
>>> 
>>> MacBook Pro, 2.2 GHz Core i7, 4 GB 1333 Mhz DD3, OS X 10.7.4
>> 
>> I'm guessing that the reason for the discrepancy between your case and mine 
>> is that my main stack has 700+ cards, so Bill's plugin has to search over 
>> 200 controls on 700+ cards to index the scripts, plus the 44 other stacks. I 
>> know, I shouldn't be storing data in individual cards, I know....
>> 
>> My stack system, Psychopharmica, is the way it is because I started the 
>> whole thing over 20 years ago in Hypercard and had a card for every patient, 
>> and I continued that model through my RunRev/LiveCode transition, not 
>> appreciating the importance of separating data from GUI. I have continued 
>> this antiquated structure for several reasons: my customized search routines 
>> depend heavily on HC/LC's find and mark commands, which are blindingly fast, 
>> and to try to duplicate even some of the functionality using database 
>> searches would be prohibitively labor intensive -- I really don't have the 
>> time to learn SQL commands given that I already have three half-time jobs. 
>> Not to mention all the other wrinkles I would have to iron out to change to 
>> a database-centered system. I know I have painted myself into a corner here, 
>> but my system has worked so well up to now and is so complex that making the 
>> paradigm shift is overwhelming.
>> 
>> Plus there is an even more compelling reason for not putting energy into the 
>> necessary changes. If I were in a position to devote more time to it and it 
>> had a future that could be ported into a commercial venture, I'd tackle the 
>> job, but everyone in the medical field is moving towards electronic medical 
>> records and my system was designed from the beginning to print hard copy 
>> paper notes for a paper chart. To move this thing into an electronic medical 
>> record system would require me to learn networking and encryption along with 
>> the database management (not to mention developing an intimate familiarity 
>> with the HIPPA laws regarding medical confidentiality). I am essentially 
>> just a (pretty experienced) LC hobbyist with another profession that I have 
>> used LC to support, not a real IT person. I'm not prepared to create an 
>> entire EMR system single-handedly.
>> 
>> So the end of the usefulness of Psychopharmica is heaving into sight. My 
>> group practice is about to adopt an EMR system this summer, so I will not be 
>> able to use my own customized LC system any more. I am not looking forward 
>> to having to use a piece of software that I can't tweak at will to make it 
>> do exactly what I want it to, and I'm preparing myself for daily cursing as 
>> I use the new software. (The two other psychiatrists in the practice that 
>> use Psychopharmica are also feeling bleak -- they appreciate how nicely this 
>> software is attuned to the actual workflow of a busy practice, and it's 
>> about to die.)
>> 
>> Sorry for the long, tangential, and somewhat bitter aside -- I didn't start 
>> out this post thinking that I'd write all this. I guess I'm in mourning 
>> already and needed to vent. It's been 20 years now that I've been spoiled by 
>> having a truly perfect tool -- one that evolved with my needs, not someone 
>> else's. Now it's time to say goodbye.
>> 
>> ;-(
>> 
>> -- Peter
>> 
>> Peter M. Brigham
>> pmb...@gmail.com
>> http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig
>> 
>> 
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