I didn't take either comment as overly argumentative but more like a challenge 
(which we tend to do on this list from time to time). For me, coming up with 
two criteria is intriguing and caught my interest. I would love to see more on 
the validity of those two criteria, but what really interested me was how Roger 
translated those to an interesting LC project. Very cool. I would love to hear 
more about that.

-- Tom McGrath III
http://lazyriver.on-rev.com
3mcgr...@comcast.net

On Mar 24, 2012, at 8:31 PM, Roger Guay wrote:

> Tim,
> 
> I don't pretend to know anything! As for my thesis, I am merely making 
> assumptions based on statistics and the vast size of our galaxy and the 
> number of stars it contains. No one has decided anything about the nature of 
> our species except the religious. BTW, did you look at the simulation?
> 
> I think it might be best to take any further discussions of this nature 
> off-list.
> 
> Cheers,
> Roger
> 
> 
> On Mar 24, 2012, at 6:03 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
> 
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:44:21 -0700
>> From: Tim Jones <tolis...@me.com>
>> To: How to use LiveCode <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>
>> Subject: Re: ANN and OT: Calling All SETI Enthusiasts
>> Message-ID: <dabd6b02-27fe-40e6-8df5-3144fce87...@me.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
>> 
>> Ready to defend your thesis?  Let me toss out two great Sci-Fi antithesis to 
>> your points below -
>> 
>> How have we determined how long the "relatively short duration" of the radio 
>> stage of any societies is?
>> 
>> How have we decided, even taking asynchronous development into account, that 
>> humans aren't the most mature and advanced species in the nearby galaxy?
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Roger Guay wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>>                     
>>> The SETI project has been in existence for about 50 years, and Enrico 
>>> Fermi's question asked in the 1940's, "Where is everybody?" is still 
>>> germane today.
>>> 
>>> I think I have finally succeded in building a simulation of two criteria 
>>> relevant to this SETI "problem": 1) The asynchronous evolution of 
>>> intelligence throughout the galaxy couple with 2) the relatively short 
>>> duration of the radio stage of alien technologies.
>>> 
>>> You can download this stack at:
>>> 
>>>                                                     
>>> https://idisk.mac.com/irog//Public/SETIproblem.livecode
>>> 
>>> I welcome any feedback.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and cheers,
>>> Roger Guay
>>> ___________
> 
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