Hi Pete,

If I keep that darn checkbox unchecked and do check the checkbox Set as stack 
Menu bar, then all is fine and the controls don't move up or down (actually 
they do move down by the same amount of pixels the card moves up).

I don't know about a tutorial or something, but I rarely look at tutorials. 
There really isn't more to it than what I wrote in my previous e-mail, except 
that you need to make the group first and set its loc to 0,0 and then set the 
menubar of the stack and the editmenus. You also need to tweak the horizontal 
position and the text font and style to resemble the Windows menubar.

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On 12 jan 2012, at 02:18, Pete wrote:

> HI Mark,
> I guess it's a case of "once bitten, twice shy".  As mentioned, I had weird
> problems trying to use it last time around and now I can't get past the
> first screen without a problem so I just don't trust it.
> 
> I didn't uncheck the box, it was already unchecked.  I also tried checking
> it, which resulted in all my controls being moved down, which I don't want
> either.
> 
> I'm building menus that will be displayed in the OS X menu bar, not within
> my stacks, so there is no need to move controls anywhere.
> 
> If there's a way to create these menus manually by creating a group, I'm
> more than happy to do that to avoid the bugginess.  IS ther a write up on
> that anywhere?
> 
> Pete


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