I think it was cool that Runrev listened to us on the list, many DEMANDED a plugin, stating that it was the 'Holy Grail' of web development.
So they MADE ONE. I was impressed. They 'matched' the browser document model with a Rev card/stack. Wow. Regardless of the fact that I put off touching javascript at for a while, I realized with all the trouble I'd seen making the plugin work in 'all browsers', that an approach that used either a server-based solution with html and javascript, or a thin client using Livecode desktop, or a "player" approach that started up stacks that live online would be a more consistent user and developer experience. I think it was in the middle of the plug-in period that Runrev changed focus and started their quest for the iPhone project. Judging by the quantity of posts about phones, I'd say it was a pretty good decision. On 12 October 2011 23:59, Chipp Walters <ch...@altuit.com> wrote: > On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:58 PM, Admin <ad...@mfelkerco.com> wrote: > > > <snip>. > > > > To say I was let down is an > > understatement. I lost my primary mode of income because the web > > deployment module, which supposedly worked, ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY DID > > NOT WORK. > > Wow. Betting your primary source of income on a new rev browser plugin > technology where it is pretty easy to vet the facts: > > A) Plugins for browsers are, er.. NOT a great way to deploy software. Just > search this list for rev plugin-- there's tons of information why this is > true AND.. > > B) Further searches should tell you the rev plugin is and always has been a > bit sketchy at best. > > Maybe it's just our company, but when we architect an app for clients, be > it LC, Flex, .NET, HTML5 or any new framework, we spend the necessary > upfront time researching (most importantly) what it CAN'T do. Frequently we > build test bed mockups just to be sure. > > I'm sure it's a hard lesson learned, but I would assume not one you will be > forgetting soon. > > And YOU ARE CORRECT. RunRev should NOT publish a half-complete product > unless they call it beta software. The fact is, with LC, some things are > much more finished and polished than other things. Unfortunately for you, > the one you chose is fairly rough. > > I believe UNICODE has been on the "coming next" list (along with a new > improved field object) for the last 5+ years. Most of us who have been > around for quite a while know the sweet spots, and the potholes, so many > times it's no big deal to us when Unicode misses another upgrade revision. > We weren't counting on it. Unfortunately, you had no such forewarning or > knowledge of this. > > Still, RunRev is a VERY small company. They have brilliant programmers and > Kevin Miller has done an almost perfect job steering the ship through the > channel already littered with dead xTalk efforts. Perhaps they are now in a > growth spurt, taking on just a bit more than they can handle-- hurrying to > play catchup with the huge number of features and APIs the hundreds of > programmers at Apple, and thousands of programmers at Microsoft and Google, > not to mention the Andre's, Richmond's, and Gaskin's relentless pursuit of > feature parity for Red Ubuntu Hat. > > Oh, and the severe competition of multiple other RAD tools out there might > also factor into some of the catchup going on. I'm not making apologies for > them, but I do know of a few other products who are faring worse. > > So, add it all up, and it shows LC to be a company who is always changing, > always pissing someone off, always righting the ship and shipping a new > build, and-- always listening. Still, it is a company with flaws, just like > any other. My suggestion: do your homework and you won't be so sorely > disappointed. There are many here who will steer you correctly. > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb <http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar> _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
