Dear all,
I'm an avid AI user, and I'd like to share some of my experiences:
I've achieved the best programming results using Gemini 2.5 Pro. (In my
opinion, it's currently much more powerful than models like ChatGPT-1o
or Claude 3.7 Sonnet). You can access Gemini 2.5 Pro for free via Google
AI Studio: https://aistudio.google.com/. You'll need to select the
Gemini 2.5 Pro model. For now, it's free to use and offers a very large
context window (up to 1 million tokens). If you hit processing limits or
want to start fresh, you can simply begin a new chat.
However, when it comes to querying the AI about LiveCode, the results
are often disappointing. This seems largely due to the limited amount of
online documentation and examples available for LiveCode compared to
languages like Python, Golang, or C++.
My experience using AI for developing Python, Flutter and Golang
applications suggests it's currently most effective for very small
projects. Once you surpass roughly 2,000 lines of code, I find that AIs
tend to introduce significantly more bugs. While you can mitigate this
somewhat by splitting the code into smaller chunks, I don't currently
see AI as a replacement for a human programmer.
Furthermore, even if an AI can generate a small Golang, Python or
Flutter app, maintaining and scaling that code over the long term
becomes very difficult. This is where LiveCode shines, with its
significant advantages in development speed, simplicity, and exceptional
code readability.
Honestly, at least for now, I don't perceive AI as a serious threat to
LiveCode development, but at the same time, AI is not very helpful with
Livecode.
Best,
Hery
On 3/9/25 06:43, Pi Digital via use-livecode wrote:
Hi Bob,
What a beautiful experience, so true. As always, something like AI
should be viewed as a surgical tool to be used only when necessary and
not relied solely upon. It’s useful but it only really gets us most of
the way there. You still have to encapsulate it properly and adjust it
to fully meet your requirements.
Thank you
Sean Cole
Pi Digital
On 7 Mar 2025, at 16:44, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
<use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
When I was young (a long time ago) the company I was with hired a new
graphics designer. All he knew was the conventional method for
prepress and he designed all his art accordingly.
When I told him about the new Digital Prepress he told me that it
still could not be done, because his professor at Orange Coast
college had told him that it was at least 10 years off.
So I designed the next book cover and produced it using digital
prepress through a service bureau, which impressed him greatly. Now a
great deal f what he produces for publishing is done with software.
He never uses “art boards” anymore because it simply isn’t necessary.
There aren’t many graphic artists left who actually understood the
process of producing the film and plates for CMYK printing, which
involved underexposing or overexposing different elements of the
graphic layout in order to avoid thin white lines around objects
because the film or plates never aligned precisely.
The knowledge is now almost completely lost, so that if the
technology of digital prepress is ever lost or unavailable, it’s
doubtful anyone would know how or have the equipment to perform the
task in the old conventional way.
I fear the same thing may end up happening with AI and not just with
programming. We already have the phenomenon of people not being able
to think for themselves, but simply believing what “experts” tell
them is true about a given subject or issue. With the advent of AI, I
think we can expect this effect to increase dramatically.
Artificial Intelligence is precicely that: Artificial. It’s really
only a mask hiding the fact that real people are providing input to
train a recursive algorithm to favor one outcome over another. It’s
just people saying, “Not thus, but thus.”
Bob S
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