The way I read it was that Doulas was just bored with the conversation and not interested in having the messages pour into his inbox. So he has unsub'd temporarily while we chit-chat about it then come back once the cat in-fighting has gone away. He was upset with us, not the business model. Like he says effectively, this is the "USE" livecode list, not the "Moan About" forum ;) He's kinda right though, isn't he :/
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 at 20:14, Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Andre. As a dedicated Livecode user who has worked at Livecode and > authored several great books about it, you understand the software and > its community well. You must recognize that many of us are very > frustrated by the new seat subscription model. The impact of these > subscriptions is absolutely brutal for us. > > Many of us are not full-time programmers; Livecode allows us to create > small apps without relying on them for our livelihood. How many people > here actually make a full living from developing apps with Livecode? For > many, Livecode is simply a tool to support our work and, at best, > provides a small financial boost. > > In the 15 years I've used Livecode, I have earned exactly $4,500 from > small commercial desktop apps. The rest of the apps I created have never > been sold; I often gave them away to clients, colleagues, family, and > acquaintances. > > No one at my workplace will pay for a Livecode license under the new > conditions. Even in my small IT company in Spain, which I manage > remotely, it will be impossible for me to provide my clients with the > small apps that I typically include in my services. We are talking about > micro-IT maintenance services that cost 200 to 300 Euros per month. How > can I justify charging them an additional $150 per seat? > > With the new licensing model, typical users like me may disappear forever. > > I understand why Douglas is so mad. > > Best, > Hery > > Best, > Hery > > On 7/29/24 14:35, Andre Garzia via use-livecode wrote: > > what a horrible tone. Also, the issue of licensing is quite impactful to > > every developer here as it dictates how the move forward, hardless a > > useless conversation. > > > > On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 at 18:37, Douglas A. Ruisaard via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> I am one of those "shadow" participants in the forum and have been for > >> many, > >> many years . only occasionally chiming in. This whole licensing > debacle is > >> boring and useless to (I would seriously guess) the majority of us who > look > >> to this forum for meaningful and useful information. I'm going to > >> unsubscribe now and (maybe) rejoin once this nonsense has run it course. > >> Have a good one! > >> > >> Douglas Ruisaard > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
