Hi Kevin , Thanks for the reply.
Well that sounds promising. Totally agree if digital service VAT is deemed due then the app can no longer be classed as free. Kind Regards > On 24 Jul 2024, at 14:05, Kevin Miller via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > If the app is genuinely a free companion app then there are no fees payable > under our model. It sounds like that is the case here so no change. What we > won't accept is someone pretending the app is free and restructuring their > business model to make it appear that way when its actually a paid app. I'm > not suggesting that is the case here. However if the VAT man was to determine > that this app should be paying digital services tax in future then we'd also > consider it to have a value at that point. > > In terms of removing the label, it will be a very small tasteful badge. Lets > have another conversation about it at the time to see if this is really an > issue. I except we can come up with a solution if so. > > Kind regards, > > Kevin > > Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ > LiveCode: Build Amazing Things > > > > > On 24/07/2024, 13:49, "use-livecode on behalf of General 2018 via > use-livecode" <use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com > <mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com> on behalf of > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: > > > Hi Kevin, > > > I have one commercial app which is sold through Fastspring. Fastspring take > care of the digital service VAT. I make small sums from this and the 5% would > hurt a little. This fits the new licence “Apps for Sale” > > > The concern is my second app, this is offered commercially as a package with > a hardware product. The software is not available separately and attaches no > cost. > This is exempt from the digital service VAT. It falls under free software in > the real world and would look bad with the Livecode mandatory message > “non-commerical” blinking at buyers of the package. To remove the Livecode > message it’s needs to be commercial with non zero cost as per the licence > model, this would be a killer as if the cost is even £1 then digital service > VAT is due which would disrupt the way in which my product is distributed and > controlled. > > > So, under the new Livecode licence models the seller of a commercial product > package containing hardware and software in which the software element has no > standalone value is being forced to charge separately for software, pay 5% > and enter the world digital service VAT. > > > Is that the understanding ? > > > > > Regards > Camm > > > On 24 Jul 2024, at 11:52, Tim Selander via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> wrote: > > > Yes, this is quite important to me as well. > > > Thanks, > Tim Selander > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > <http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
