Also good time to mention revNavigator where the grouping would be immediately obvious and you can drag to reorder.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 29, 2023, at 15:22, Geoff Canyon via use-livecode > <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > One trick to this is that objects are included into a group if > relayerGroupedControls is set to true and the layer of the control is set > to the layer above the group. Meaning that if you have this arrangement: > > stack "Untitled 1" > card id 1002 > | group id 1005 (1005) > | | button "Button" (1006) > | | button "Button" (1004) > | button "Button" (1003) > | button "test" (1007) > > put the layer of button "test" > -- puts 5 > > set relayergroupedcontrols to false;set the layer of button "test" to 4 > > This is now the arrangement: > > stack "Untitled 1" > card id 1002 > | group id 1005 (1005) > | | button "Button" (1006) > | | button "Button" (1004) > | button "test" (1007) > | button "Button" (1003) > > put the layer of button "test" > -- puts 4 > > Button "test" is immediately above the group, but not in the group > > set relayergroupedcontrols to true;set the layer of button "test" to 4 > > Now the arrangement is: > > stack "Untitled 1" > card id 1002 > | group id 1005 (1005) > | | button "Button" (1006) > | | button "Button" (1004) > | | button "test" (1007) > | button "Button" (1003) > > put the layer of button "test" > -- puts 4 > > The layer of button "test" didn't change, but now it is in the group -- and > the topmost object in the group. > > I learned this the hard way through much experimentation building > Navigator. Getting drag-and-drop relayering right with selection of > multiple objects, and discontiguous selections, in and out of groups, is > *painful*, and I've done it several times now... > >> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 10:46 AM Martin Koob via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> Hi MarkwI did not see your later post that the fields were grouped. My >> scenario was just the most basic case of fields on a card. I guess it >> would work if all the fields were in 1 group but having fields in different >> groups certainly complicates things. Cool solution though. I wasn’t aware >> of the relayerGroupedControls option. Reading the entry in the Dictionary >> I learned some interesting things about groups and layers. >> e.g. you can move an object out of a group by setting its layer above the >> layer of the topmost object in the group or conversely setting it below >> the bottommost object in the group. Hmmm…. What could you do with that? >> >> True the old brain needs a bit of a work out once in a while to keep the >> neurons running. Thanks for posting your question. >> >> Martin >> >>>> On Jul 29, 2023, at 11:00 AM, Mark Smith <marksmith...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On 29 Jul 2023, at 3:27 pm, Martin Koob via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com <mailto:use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> The two ways I have used are either with the property inspector or by >> script. >>>> >>>> Property Inspector >>>> - click the ‘Position’ tab of the property inspector >>>> - Change the number in the ‘Layer’ field either directly or by using >> the arrow keys. >>> >>> Thanks Martin, but as noted, "items won’t relayer if they are grouped >> and “relayingGroupedControls" is set to false. That was exactly the >> situation I was in. In my case, field A was grouped with label A, etc so >> attempting to relayer them failed. I didn’t notice they were grouped >> because Select Grouped was not chosen in the menu bar. With Select Grouped >> chosen it’s easy to see the label-field grouping, and then to relayer the >> groups (not the fields inside the groups) if need be. Or, you can use the >> PB to do this by just dragging the groups around to relayer them. Finally, >> there’s a property called relayerGroupedControls which will allow you to >> relayer objects inside a group. If that had of been “true” instead of the >> default “false” I would have been able to relayer them in the first >> instance. But you have to be careful with this option as it can also revise >> the grouping. BTW, I just tried it (grouped the labels and fields, set the >> relayerGroupedControls option to true, turned off Select Grouped) and I was >> able to select the individual fields and relayer them using the Layer field >> in the Property Inspector. Kinda cool but my goodness you really have to >> know your stuff to make that manoeuvre happen. >>> >>> But also thank you for the opportunity to discuss this further. It helps >> with the encoding of this new information into my ageing brain 😊 And also, >> if I got any of it wrong, please correct me. >>> >>> Mark >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >> > _______________________________________________ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode _______________________________________________ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode