Hi Paul, my sentiments exactly. I also shudder at having to change, modify or 
upgrade any aspect of the development environment because, like a set of 
dominoes, once you change one thing you are pretty much committed to having to 
upgrade and change everything else as well. Its an unfortunate aspect of 
developing in the modern computer age but tools like Matthias’s 
MrSignNotarizeHelperV4 makes it a LOT less bumpy.  I probably would have given 
up ages ago without it!!

Mark

> On 17 Jul 2023, at 6:11 pm, Paul Dupuis via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, I'm glad the lesson and tool exists and thanks for the link.
> 
> On the negative side, I just found the Apple developer Xcode page that shows 
> that Xcode 13minimum OS version is  macOS Big Sur 11.3
> 
> So, no more Mojave. Huge bummer for me.
> 
> We have a macBook Air with Ventura (latest version), so I guess it is time to 
> set up and get used to Xcode 15. Ugh, I have when OS vendors change things. 
> We have enough changes we need to make in our own products we can't keep up 
> with :-(
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/17/2023 12:48 PM, matthias rebbe via use-livecode wrote:
>>> 2) Has Livecode (or anyone else) updated lessons. documentation, help apps, 
>>> etc, for using this new notarytool? If so, can anyone point me to it?
>>> 
>> see here
>> https://lessons.livecode.com/m/4071/l/1653720-code-signing-and-notarizing-your-lc-standalone-for-distribution-outside-the-mac-appstore-with-xcode-13-and-up
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> November 1 is still a ways off, but I find Apple Notarization so 
>>> incomprehensible that once I get a set of steps to work, I document them 
>>> and follow them verbatim and the thought of trying to figure out what this 
>>> change means is daunting!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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