The question is - why would it do that? This is totally repeatable for me. Even 
when I create a new stack with no code in it whatsoever. Have any other app 
displaying a window (like a browser window), then click anything in the 
toolbar, for example, and that new stack will disappear back behind the browser 
window. Only happens on Ventura for me - not on any previous Mac OS that I’ve 
tried. And it’s doing it on 2 different Macs. It does it both in the IDE and in 
a standalone, so not caused by any plugins.

Do you use the Levure framework by chance? I do - I’ll do some testing here to 
see if that might be effecting things.


Marty

> On Apr 20, 2023, at 7:49 AM, David V Glasgow via use-livecode 
> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
> Me too.  Or maybe me too.  Is this the same thing?...
> 
> Even if focus shifts from my stack to Message Box, the next click on my stack 
> causes it to just disappear.  Most alarming until I realised what was 
> happening.  My stack is just behind everything else and CMD tab (x2) brings 
> it to front.  Phew...
> 
> M2, LC 9.6.8
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Best Wishes,
> 
> David Glasgow
> Honorary Professor, Nottingham Trent University
> Sexual Offences, Crime and Misconduct Research Unit
> Consultant Forensic & Clinical Psychologist
> Carlton Glasgow Partnership
> Director, Child & Family Training, York
> 
> 
> LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidvglasgow/>
> 
>> On 19 Apr 2023, at 7:25 pm, Marty Knapp via use-livecode 
>> <use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ever since I updated to Ventura on my Mac I've had this weird behavior both 
>> in the IDE and in two different standalones - if I have more than one stack 
>> open, when I click on a stack that is behind another stack to bring it to 
>> the front, it very briefly comes to the front (flashes), then goes back 
>> behind everything, even windows from other apps. If I click on the title bar 
>> it does not do this. In the menubar is still indicates that I'm in my app. 
>> It's not happening with any non-Livecode apps and it's occurring on two 
>> different Macs. I’m not seeing this behavior on OSes previous to Ventura.
>> 
>> Am I going crazy?
>> 
>> Marty


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