I would suggest filing a report and get the ball rolling. If you reference
in the post by Ali and your other workarounds it will at least be useful to
some and at best provide information that leads to a fix.

On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 at 14:30, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Maybe.
>
> But the last 6 years no one filed a bug report, even Ali did not. So i
> doubt, that it will be fixed in the near future even with a bug report.
> Anyway, without a bug report there is definitely no chance that it will be
> ever fixed.
>
>
> > Am 06.04.2022 um 15:22 schrieb Tweedly via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >
> > That post from Ali says they are not available; it doesn’t say they
> should be not available.
> >
> > I’d say they should be -  Ali’s workaround is good for the IDE only.
> >
> > So no reason not to submit as a bug/request, and get a proper
> determination from LCLtd.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On 6 Apr 2022, at 13:37, matthias rebbe via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> That is not available according to this post from Ali Lloyd
> >>
> >> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?t=27183#p141945 <
> https://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?t=27183#p141945>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Am 06.04.2022 um 14:03 schrieb Neville Smythe via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>:
> >>>
> >>> Is it not a bug that
> >>>
> >>>   the properties of widget “foo”
> >>>
> >>> returns empty (for all values of foo)?
> >>>
> >>> No rect, no visible, no disabled etc, even though these clearly are
> settable and functional properties of the widget.
> >>>
> >>> You can
> >>>
> >>>  export widget “foo” to array “bar”
> >>>
> >>> but that gives the intrinsic properties of the widget not the usual
> object properties. Oh and don’t forget the reserved word “array” in the
> above line, that causes an IDE crash (bug 23655 <
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=23655> confirmed)
> >>>
> >>> Neville
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